At best the EU will get a token office to operate through as is the done thing across the rest of the world, again see China lots of tiny offices and big companies actually operating from Singapore. The UK remains far more attractive to businesses and even more so to shield them from the EU.
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (April Poll)
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At best the EU will get a token office to operate through as is the done thing across the rest of the world, again see China lots of tiny offices and big companies actually operating from Singapore. The UK remains far more attractive to businesses and even more so to shield them from the EU.
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Obviously there is no evidence of decisions of companies to move prior to the referendum vote, being vocal about such things can be damaging to companies in many ways and it is foolish to dismiss the possibility of companies moving because there are no announcements on it.
The company i work with as well as a few of our trade partners have been considering it and we are a small business of just 50-60 employees, our trade partners even smaller.
Number of businesses also back saying. There was even some noise last week about businesses encouraging some of their workforce to vote in.
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It's as much a failing of the Remain campaign for not pointing this out as it is of the Leave crowd for thinking it.
Oh wow, companies planning for eventualities... what a big shocker.
And at the center of it is Germany... its like WW2 all over again... just more political and less tanky...
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Seems to be with some of you considering the denial in the last page...
interesting to see the regular gap between telephone and online polls... silent Tory type effect I wonder?
No, leaving the EU and introducing a points based system quite obviously would tackle some of the immigration issue some people are concerned about.
Business is split - on the whole smaller businesses (that account for most of the businesses in the UK and a larger proportion of jobs) want to leave as per the survey I posted. Some big businesses have been vocal about staying because they don't like uncertainty and also realise UK wages will likely go up if we leave.
There are plenty that want to leave as well, see here.
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Free-movement will be signed off as part of our free trade with the EU under those circumstances. All three major party leaders support it so they won't fight its exclusion in the upcoming renegotiation after Brexit.
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Ah right, so they've never actually done anything and act under the control of the UN anyway, that explains why I've never heard of it.
Plus it seems it was mainly organised based on a British/French paper anyway. Seems people worrying about that are just clutching at straws then from my point of view, it does nothing that the UN or NATO wouldnt have us do anyway
Who will introduce this points based system?
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As I said, what is the right to remain amongst the non EU migration numbers? Before anyone starts I also know not everyone from the EU remains.
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It's comments like this after you pulled somebody up for their spelling yesterday which made me make the comment about a superiority complex amongst some of the remain crowd. You really do have an attitude on you.
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Afair there has been no formal mention of intent to implement the system. At the moment it is just a dream and will remain so even if we leave as long as those in power remain unwilling to introduce such a system.
you can't say that for sure - Switzerland grants visas and is currently looking at caps for example and they're part of the EFTA (granted that would cause a standoff with the EU)
we don't know what would happen in the event of brexit - whether we strike a bunch of trade deals or go with EEA or EFTA deals etc..
Wow interesting latest polls
I think Both sides are spouting unpredictable numbers
But I think unpredictable is the correct answer. And therefore I should technically abstain
The two sticking points are.. How far will the eu erode us and how much more might we pay.
Vs how difficult will it be to recover the post exit impact and how difficult will establishing free trade etc be
With both being unpredictable I probably have to vote without logic and reason. Or by emotions. Logic says abstain. Emotions say exit
I think Both sides are spouting unpredictable numbers
But I think unpredictable is the correct answer. And therefore I should technically abstain
The two sticking points are.. How far will the eu erode us and how much more might we pay.
Vs how difficult will it be to recover the post exit impact and how difficult will establishing free trade etc be
With both being unpredictable I probably have to vote without logic and reason. Or by emotions. Logic says abstain. Emotions say exit
http://order-order.com/2016/04/19/goves-truth-bullets-for-project-fear/
“The City of London would become a ghost down, our manufacturing industries would be sanctioned more punitively than even communist North Korea, decades would pass before a single British Land Rover or Mr Kipling cake could ever again be sold in France and in the meantime our farmers would have been driven from the land by poverty worse than the Potato Famine.
To cap it all, an alliance of Vladimir Putin, Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump, emboldened by our weakness, would, like some geopolitical equivalent of the Penguin, Catwoman and the Joker, be liberated to spread chaos worldwide and subvert our democracy.
I sometimes think that the In campaign appears to be operating to a script written by George RR Martin and Stephen King. Brexit would mean a combination of A Feast for Crows and Misery.
It’s a deeply pessimistic view of the British people’s potential, and a profoundly negative vision of the future which just isn’t rooted in reality. The idea that if Britain voted to leave the European Union we would instantly become some sort of hermit kingdom – a North Atlantic North Korea, only without that country’s fund of international good will – it’s a fantasy, it’s a phantom, it’s a great grotesque patronising and preposterous Peter Mandelsonian conceit, that imagines that the people of this country are mere children, capable of being frightened into obedience by conjuring up new bogeymen every night.”
Bonus: George Osborne's 3million Migrant Clanger in Treasury's Doom-Laden Report
“The City of London would become a ghost down, our manufacturing industries would be sanctioned more punitively than even communist North Korea, decades would pass before a single British Land Rover or Mr Kipling cake could ever again be sold in France and in the meantime our farmers would have been driven from the land by poverty worse than the Potato Famine.
To cap it all, an alliance of Vladimir Putin, Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump, emboldened by our weakness, would, like some geopolitical equivalent of the Penguin, Catwoman and the Joker, be liberated to spread chaos worldwide and subvert our democracy.
I sometimes think that the In campaign appears to be operating to a script written by George RR Martin and Stephen King. Brexit would mean a combination of A Feast for Crows and Misery.
It’s a deeply pessimistic view of the British people’s potential, and a profoundly negative vision of the future which just isn’t rooted in reality. The idea that if Britain voted to leave the European Union we would instantly become some sort of hermit kingdom – a North Atlantic North Korea, only without that country’s fund of international good will – it’s a fantasy, it’s a phantom, it’s a great grotesque patronising and preposterous Peter Mandelsonian conceit, that imagines that the people of this country are mere children, capable of being frightened into obedience by conjuring up new bogeymen every night.”
Bonus: George Osborne's 3million Migrant Clanger in Treasury's Doom-Laden Report
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Fluffing up the pride of the leave campaigners while discrediting the stay campaign using extreme and ridiculous descriptions of views. Its a fantastical peice of writing, especially teh last paragraph but that is all that is.
The vast majority of in campaigners say that the benefits of the EU are understated and that the main drive behind leaving will not ultimately be effected if we did vote leave, as the compromises in negotiations will leave us more or less where we stand now in terms of movement and trade. Tell me i have a crystal ball but the intentions of the current government seem to show this more than a radical immigration no policy + insanely good trade deals and foreign investment opportunities.
The vast majority of in campaigners say that the benefits of the EU are understated and that the main drive behind leaving will not ultimately be effected if we did vote leave, as the compromises in negotiations will leave us more or less where we stand now in terms of movement and trade. Tell me i have a crystal ball but the intentions of the current government seem to show this more than a radical immigration no policy + insanely good trade deals and foreign investment opportunities.
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