Praise Allah to be on British buses

Don't really care, I don't pay attention to ads online, and I certainly don't pay attention to them IRL unless its a tasty car or something. It's for a good cause so fair one to the people organising the aid efforts over there.

robfosters said:
Anti Islam graffiti artists are going to have a field day with this one.
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Are they though? Are they really robfosters?
 
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Roar87 said:
The underlying doctrine that ultimately they agree to follow isn't going to change, even if they personally don't agree with all of it, there's always going to be a desire to change views and Laws to be closer to that of Islamic countries.
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Yes it will, the culture of 2nd/3rd generation british muslims is radically different to the cultures in south asia and the middle east, even with the weight of conservative regimes the culture in those areas is changing - the world just isn't like it was 50 years ago. The computer and the internet has changed so much.

Scania said:
I couldn't care less.

Religion - all forms of it - is something made up by man to keep society in check, the sooner modern society wakes up to this throw back to the dark ages and rejects it the better.
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Organised religion can be a nasty thing, but it seems every culture on earth developed some form of god worship, maybe we need it? It seems most secular societies have used consumerism and drugs to fill the void but surely we can find healthier substitutes.
 
Malevolence said:
Just a quick reminder that not too long ago, followers of that very cult tried to introduce London's public transport to the peaceful way of Allah.

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Hah, yep I don't particularly want to see it on the side of a bus. I'm just being honest, I don't mind a charity slapping their logo on trying to bring in donations / awareness of their work, but slapping "glory to allah" on the side of a bus resembling one which was blown up by people doing it in the name of said religion of peace is a bit of a stretch for me...

Just the way it is, all the turmoil we see recently is mostly associated with Islam so naturally people are apprehensive. In b4 10 page thread arguing.
 
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Hikari Kisugi said:
Most food advertising is nonscence, in fact, a great deal of things that are advertised to us, are often not in our best interests, either financially or physically, so religion is really no different.
Let people choose.
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At least the foodstuffs actually exist, and will not condemn your soul to an eternity in hell for believing in other foods.

And I've not heard any reports of suicide bombers praising Nestle or Cadbury before killing scores of innocent civilians.
 
Golf1.6 said:
But it's nothing to do with animal welfare because halal slaughter by subways is basically exactly like non-halal slaughter. It's just that there a man saying praise to Allah while the slaughter is taking place. It gets stunned before slaughter.
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Except in a lot of cases they aren't stunned. So perhaps do some reading up on it before making such wrong claims. It is absolutely wrong and should be stopped.

Last year 2.4 million sheep and goats had their throats cut without being stunned in halal and kosher abattoirs, according to the British Veterinary Association (BVA).


In halal premium, 37 per cent of sheep and goats, 25 per cent of cattle and 16 per cent of poultry were killed without being stunned first.
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Religion.. I want to sue the advertisers after I die that I did not go to heaven/hell or any other religious make believe afterlife
 
RDM said:
No, Cinemas declined to show an advert featuring the Lords Prayer before Star Wars, the Church said it was unhappy and then got tons of free advertising as loads of people clicked on the online version of the ad. Nothing to do with buses and nothing to do with complaints from secular groups. Though there was some suggestion that the reason the cinemas refused was to make sure they didn't offend non Christian religious people...
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The company that controls the cinemas has a policy of not being used as a platform to promote any religious or political ideology.
 
Safetytrousers said:
Miriam Webster:

Simple Definition of cult
: a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous

How you use words has importance. The use of the word cult to describe a major world religion is pejorative and insulting.
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Demanding different words solely on the basis of how much power an ideology has has nothing to do with what a word means. It's about power.
 
Angilion said:
Demanding different words solely on the basis of how much power an ideology has has nothing to do with what a word means. It's about power.
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I thought I explained it quite well in my last post.
The word 'religion' and 'cult' are not freely interchangeable and if you choose to call a major world religion a cult you are making a disparaging point about it. I am not demanding words, I would just like to see respect.

Anyhow, if you want to see a message on the side of a bus that you would prefer you can see it come to be here:
http://ruletheweb.co.uk/b3ta/bus/
 
The Mad Rapper said:
No, he has it right.
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Either way, to associate this campaign with a bunch of terrorists is in bad tastes whichever way you look at it... But that kind of response was to be expected in a thread remotely related to Islam, heck, even threads about anti Semitism are apparently fair game for those sort things on this forum. I'm surprised it took 14 posts.

Queue the rest of the thread not being remotely related to the first post...

Skunkworks said:
It looks like we've made a start on that.
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You mean trying to get more people to donate and do charitable? That's pretty big in Muslim world and I for one am happy if it became even more prevelent over here than it already was... ;)

Dave M said:
Organised religion can be a nasty thing, but it seems every culture on earth developed some form of god worship, maybe we need it? It seems most secular societies have used consumerism and drugs to fill the void but surely we can find healthier substitutes.
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Religion is a great way of controlling populations and rallying people to your "cause", especially if it involves fighting. "Fight and die for me and God will bless you and send you to heaven where you can live happily ever after".
 
Dave M said:
Organised religion can be a nasty thing, but it seems every culture on earth developed some form of god worship, maybe we need it? It seems most secular societies have used consumerism and drugs to fill the void but surely we can find healthier substitutes.
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Organised religion can and has been very nasty (Catholic church springs to mind!) I see it as I said as a throwback to an age where most were part of an illiterate and uneducated rabble and God fearing was a good way to control them.

Holy books don't stand up to scrutiny never mind scientific fact or reason, yes we could do with a modern day equivalent / replacement as consumerism certainly isn't it, although religion itself does seem to be drug like in its effect especially upon the devout and more extreme of whatever faith.
 
I cannot wait to tuck into a bacon butty in the morning, listening to these prayers. That is the real sensation of freedom.

lol... honestly don't care. I avoid buses like the plague.

If it's a charitable message and purpose, it seems silly to get upset about it tbh.
 
Amp34 said:
Religion is a great way of controlling populations and rallying people to your "cause", especially if it involves fighting. "Fight and die for me and God will bless you and send you to heaven where you can live happily ever after".
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Exactly this, it preys on the human fear that life is ultimately pointless and we'll not even have left a quantum ripple when the universe ends.

That said, not got a problem with the signs. I've seen Christian ones and Jewish ones on occasion, these religions are no less bloody than the rest.
 
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