High Court Ruling on School Holidays

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Exactly, nothing is ever achieved in the last week of any significance (Unless you're doing exams) so taking a few days out in this week is hardly a major issue as lessons mainly consist of filler work/games etc

We may have the same posters come in spouting " but kids learn through play and teamwork" :rolleyes:

Better make sure they are in that last week or you get a fine
 
Porridge for me.

But you can't seriously think, wow my kids are getting average grade so I am going to reward them with holidays? What kind of example are you setting?

Now if a kid is getting AAAAA grades and their parent takes them out for a few days to Eureka or something as a treat can I complain? No. For kids getting average grades how are you incentivising them to excel or even push their boundries?

You are teaching them that mediocrity os good and that frigging the system to save a few quid is standard procedure. Think about how you want them to bring up their kids?

If everyone was equal I could see your point but no matter how hard some people try average results is all they are going to get during a school term. Usually these kids require further time to reach the level of some others by going through college first then uni.

The kid putting in the same work as a A++ grade kid shouldn't be rewarded because they are slower on the uptake? No offence but an extra week isn't going to do anything, some might argue a week away would do them better.

On the same page though it should be up to the parents to demonstrate that the child knows what has been taught during their time away that doesn't add any extra work on teachers.
 
Ignorance is bliss. His kids (if any) must be zombies or robots

I'm not here to lecture anyone on how to bring up their own kids. But how about you hire a tutor to help your kids and get them up to top grades instead of spending the money on a holiday?

This is practical advice to help them advance. Look, education is no guarantee of financial security or wealth but there is a correlation.

I don't know if it's just me but in some of these cases I think it's the parents being selfish as it is them who wants the cheap holiday under the guise of giving their kids a cultural revolution by going to Palma nova.
 
Something I notice about the I never had holidays as a child because I stayed in school but now I'm a multi millionaire and can have 4 a year group, didn't any of them ever wanted a family holiday with their parents and siblings from the POV of a child? Then do the same with their children?
 
Respect? No love your kids. I want my kids to have life changing experiences:
Eating raw octopus
Chucking a coin in the Trevi Fountain
Standing inside the Vatican
Seeing a praying Mantis run up daddys arm onto his ear
Seeing a different seaside
Eating a genuine and authentic culturally associated meal

I wonder what proportion of holidays taken in term time are for life changing experiences like this, and what proportion are simply cheaper versions of the same all inclusive holiday in the Med they'd have taken anyway? Frankyl its like the sort of trips you'd do would be officially sanctioned by the head anyway.

The other reason, of course, that holidays cost more in the school holidays is not purely because it's the school holidays but because it's summer, which is peak holiday time even for those without kids. Look at the way air fares are structured - for most scheduled flights a departure date later than 21st June is peak season and significantly more money, even though it's not school holidays.

It comes down to supply and demand - there are a finite number of hotels and seats on planes, and the more people who want to purchase them the more they'll pay and the higher the price of these. Travel firms exist for one reason and one reason only - to maximise shareholder value. They charge what people will pay and who can blame them?
 
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Something I notice about the I never had holidays as a child because I stayed in school but now I'm a multi millionaire and can have 4 a year group, didn't any of them ever wanted a family holiday with their parents and siblings from the POV of a child? Then do the same with their children?

Why would they want that? They were shipped off to boarding school. How would they know the people who are there parents. Exaggerated of course but it holds a vested air of truth
 
We may have the same posters come in spouting " but kids learn through play and teamwork" :rolleyes:
Better make sure they are in that last week or you get a fine
I understand but I just find it amusing that you can be fined for removing your child from "busy work" (Colour in sheets, pointless tasks etc). Fair enough if it is a key development stage or point such as exams, coursework, team work activity or event but it's just monotonous tasks so it is a tad ironic that it is worth a fine :)
 
And last week of term starts a slippage. Once everyone is off the last week of term, then the week before starts to look less like work time too and kids start having holidays then instead as it's even cheaper. Then they come back for the last week when the other half of class is on holidays and suddenly 2 weeks of the calendar have been lost all ready.

What lesson does eating raw octopus really teach you? Learn how to cook? Do they need to learn this lesson specifically during term time?
 
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I wonder what proportion of holidays taken in term time are for life changing experiences like this, and what proportion are simply cheaper versions of the same all inclusive holiday in the Med they'd have taken anyway? Frankyl its like the sort of trips you'd do would be officially sanctioned by the head anyway.

The other reason, of course, that holidays cost more in the school holidays is not purely because it's the school holidays but because it's summer, which is peak holiday time even for those without kids. Look at the way air fares are structured - for most scheduled flights a departure date later than 21st June is peak season and significantly more money, even though it's not school holidays.

It comes down to supply and demand - there are a finite number of hotels and seats on planes, and the more people who want to purchase them the more they'll pay and the higher the price of these. Travel firms exist for one reason and one reason only - to maximise shareholder value. They charge what people will pay and who can blame them?

Can't believe I am going along with something Fox is saying. Its true but a holiday can be so much more than anything. Chavs will go to get drunk.

Our holidays to give an example are all about experiences (education). Snorkelling nearly daily (SD is interested this month in marine biology). Visit to some caves that are millions of years old. Learning the younger one to swim in the sea. Catching lizards with the little man. Different cuisine, learning a bit of the language.

I class myself as a responsible and forward thinking parent who values his children's education
 
I understand but I just find it amusing that you can be fined for removing your child from "busy work" (Colour in sheets, pointless tasks etc). Fair enough if it is a key development stage or point such as exams, coursework, team work activity or event but it's just monotonous tasks so it is a tad ironic that it is worth a fine :)

Indeed especially considering I recall seeing a certain MP away with children during term time.. Oh that's right private schools need not apply
 
And last week of term starts a slippage. Once everyone is off the last week of term, then the week before starts to look less like work time too and kids start having holidays then instead as it's even cheaper. Then they come back for the last week when the other half of class is on holidays and suddenly 2 weeks of the calendar have been lost all ready.
What lesson does eating raw octopus really teach you? Learn how to cook? Do they need to learn this lesson specifically during term time?
Unfortunately I do agree with you on the slippery slope as it brings to mind "Give an inch, they'll take a mile" as while the 99% will be fair and take a day or two theres always one that takes the full week. Personally as long as the child is performing and the family has a logical/reasonable history within the school I can't see a problem with a few days at the end but I completely understand your POV. It's another example of the minority spoiling it for the majority
 
Bears entire argument = null

Nice of you preach to others about something you have not a clue about.

I haven't preached about anything, you obviously have a chip on your shoulder. We were all children once upon a time and I didn't have a foreign holiday except a day trip with school. My first genuine time abroad was when I worked abroad for a year when I was 23.

If you were to believed, then all poor people that can't afford foreign holidays are all culturally stunted and don't have such broad experience which isn't true at all. You are poor but like to be elitist, a touch of Hyacinth Bucket syndrome.
 
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What lesson does eating raw octopus really teach you? Learn how to cook? Do they need to learn this lesson specifically during term time?

Pedantics.

I've never had a raw Octopus before. Once again OcUKs famous: I will ignore all the substance of your argument that dissolves mine and focus on the one facet that I think is pointless. Way to go!
 
I'm not here to lecture anyone on how to bring up their own kids. But how about you hire a tutor to help your kids and get them up to top grades instead of spending the money on a holiday?

This is practical advice to help them advance. Look, education is no guarantee of financial security or wealth but there is a correlation.

I don't know if it's just me but in some of these cases I think it's the parents being selfish as it is them who wants the cheap holiday under the guise of giving their kids a cultural revolution by going to Palma nova.


Just required myself as this slipped off the last page.

What I would say is that common sense led parents are in short supply. Council and dss parents will take advantage of this ruling in spite of their children's education instead of for it.
 
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