EgyptAir flight from Paris to Cairo missing

b0redj0rd said:
This is from the aviation herald although it doesn't seem to be being reported elsewhere for the moment:

On May 20th 2016 The Aviation Herald received information from three independent channels, that ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages with following content were received from the aircraft:

00:26Z 3044 ANTI ICE R WINDOW
00:26Z 561200 R SLIDING WINDOW SENSOR
00:26Z 2600 SMOKE LAVATORY SMOKE
00:27Z 2600 AVIONICS SMOKE
00:28Z 561100 R FIXED WINDOW SENSOR
00:29Z 2200 AUTO FLT FCU 2 FAULT
00:29Z 2700 F/CTL SEC 3 FAULT
no further ACARS messages were received

http://avherald.com/h?article=4987fb09

Looks like a fire.
Click to expand...

If it was fire then would they not have time to mayday? :confused:

All them sensor readings are within 3 minutes that looks like a bomb, also the time it would take for it to drop 22k ft/ 4 miles up in altitude.

Looking up number that looks like terminal velocity.

Do you know at what altitude/FL them readings were taken?
 
itchy said:
If it was fire then would they not have time to mayday? :confused:

All them sensor readings are within 3 minutes that looks like a bomb, also the time it would take for it to drop 22k ft/ 4 miles up in altitude.

Looking up number that looks like terminal velocity.

Do you know at what altitude/FL them readings were taken?
Click to expand...
All those errors are 6 minutes before the rapid descent started.

Reading around would suggest that dropping altitude is standard procedure in event of fire.

Also, those window errors refer to the heating elements which, again reading around, have been known to cause issues before.

At the moment I'd guess at window heater fault, caused a fire, they've tried to come down, fire gets out of control and they crash into the sea.
 
itchy said:
If it was fire then would they not have time to mayday? :confused:
Click to expand...

Not sure what good getting on the radio would've done. I don't think the lack of a radio message about what is going on is indicative of anything at all. In an emergency situation, the pilots would've been busy trying to work out what's going on and trying to ensure they can still fly the aircraft. Getting on the radio would be very much secondary to that
 
Kenai said:
All those errors are 6 minutes before the rapid descent started.
.
Click to expand...

29-26 is 2 so therefore 3 ish minutes not 6.

Even if the plane was on fire why the rapid decent, planes do not fall out the sky like rocks. Unless structurally compromised severely.

Fire then explosion maybe the case, but something went boom on that plane.

I will leave it to the professionals to find out, we will find out in due course. ;)
 
itchy said:
29-26 is 2 so therefore 3 ish minutes not 6.

Even if the plane was on fire why the rapid decent, planes do not fall out the sky like rocks. Unless structurally compromised severely.

Fire then explosion maybe the case, but something went boom on that plane.

I will leave it to the professionals to find out, we will find out in due course. ;)
Click to expand...

It stayed at 37000ft until 00.33 didn't it? Hence 6 minutes before it began the rapid descent, which as I mentioned, seems to be the standard procedure for a fire, drop altitude as fast as you can.
 
Am no professional but I did have a strong interest in planes in my youth.
Flew a few Cessna planes/ lessons and had a very strong interest in avionics.

Is the not 3 back up systems on all modern airliner jets?

It might be me but I just cannot see a plane bursting into flames that fast.
It all changed after the Manchester runway disaster in 1985 I think, most of the materials used now are fire retardant.

We shall soon see what happened hopefully.

Besides its a sad loss to all on board. :(
 
Amp34 said:
Bit odd that no one has claimed responsibility if it is a terrorist incident. Usually (but not always) someone claims responsibility pretty soon after.
Click to expand...

with the fractured nature of some groups these days they don't always know until afterwards that someone has done something in their name, they can then retrospectively claim credit for it

having said that I'm not sure there has been confirmation it was a terror attack - sounds like an accident is just as plausible
 
They have redundant systems but it's still one airframe, the cables and control systems can't exist in a parallel universe that isn't affected by physical damage.
 
Diddums said:
It's not possible to open the cockpit windows at all iirc.
Click to expand...

sure it is

pilot_selfie.jpg








(OK the backdrop is an obvious 'shop but still, the windows can open)
 
dowie said:
with the fractured nature of some groups these days they don't always know until afterwards that someone has done something in their name, they can then retrospectively claim credit for it

having said that I'm not sure there has been confirmation it was a terror attack - sounds like an accident is just as plausible
Click to expand...

I seem to remember wasn't the russian plane a couple of days before IS claimed responsibility?
 
It literally doesn't affect anybody so it does make it OK. Getting hung up on a benign joke should be right at the bottom of your list of 'things to spend time on'.
 
Caged said:
It literally doesn't affect anybody so it does make it OK. Getting hung up on a benign joke should be right at the bottom of your list of 'things to spend time on'.
Click to expand...

How about you engage your brain this time, eh?

I'll simplify it for you :)

This has been the headline news for several days. It has obviously not affected either of us personally, however a moronic joke relating it to 9/11 perhaps isn't sensible given the circumstance?


Perhaps this is could be an opportunity for the "mods" to reconsider that content which is allowable on these forums. Perhaps improve the incumbent .
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom