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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce GTX 1080 offers poor overclocking
http://videocardz.com/60631/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-offers-poor-overclocking
http://videocardz.com/60631/asus-rog-strix-geforce-gtx-1080-offers-poor-overclocking
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Fast sync reduces the input lag penalty associated with vsync, but it is still vsync on
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Maxwell needs to be kept cool to hit its highest clocks too, I was always expecting to have to put it Pascal on water too
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Which proves my point - the excuse the costs are going up does not hold. Doubling margins is not indicative the costs are really going up as much as people think. It is basically because AMD and Nvidia have created new tiers of cards so they can make more money,and milking people for the said performance improvements.
Even the Fury line was a cunning ploy by AMD. The R9 290 and R9 285 prices were in freefall. By introducing the £500 Fury X and rebranding the R9 290 and R9 285,AMD managed to increase ASP too.
Remember,the GTX670 came out at $400 in 2012 and was 20% faster than the GTX580. The GTX970 came out at $330 in late 2014 and traded blows with the GTX780TI/Titan Black.
Both cards in many ways were similar performance/dollar relative to the high end cards they obsoleted. GTX670 120% of the GTX580 for $400,and the GTX970 nearly 100% of the GTX780TI/Titan Black for $330.
It is pretty much not that great considering what the GTX670 and even the GTX970 achieved.
The GTX1070 is not the great card people are trying to make it to be just because the new high end is £500 to £600 and not £400 to £450.
The small GPU GTX680 and GTX980 were much cheaper in dollars than the small GPU GTX1080.
Plus the other problem is that the GTX680 was only 10% faster than a GTX670,the GTX980 was 15% faster than the GTX970.
The GTX1080 is massively faster than the GTX1070. The GTX1070 looks like it has been engineered so it cannot catch the GTX1080.
Unless AMD pulls out a great price/performance card with Polaris we will really need to wait until the GTX1080TI and Vega to probably see some more movement in price/performance.
Sadly,I am not expecting much but more hype and VR talk from both companies.
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Not great then. Looks like I'll be grabbing 2 cheaper EVGA SC cards and watercooling them.
Custom bios should see a bit more on the power and voltage side of things.
I'll be keeping a close eye on the MSI X reviews though.
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Videocardz completely fails to mention that the voltage is currently locked when they overclocked it via GPU Tweak II. Which is something Computerbase states up front clearly. Bad reporting !
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Locked voltage is only mentioned very shortly in the ending paragraph.
While the original article makes a clear point of it up front. Also, the whole Fury locked voltage comes to mind.
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Around the 7:45 min mark someone asks "Will fast sync be backwards compatible with previous generation cards?" The reply is "we are expecting this to be fairly broad"
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The issue I have is my monitor tears even when I'm below the max refresh rate of 60fps.
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that's because this is Maxwell with a new front end - not the real pascal, as that's compute only
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So basically we need what, LN2?
If its hardlocked what's even the point to these top end cards with 6+8 and 8+8 power?
I know gamers nexus didnt max out the single 8pin with their 1080 at 2150mhz under hybrid cooler.
If its hardlocked what's even the point to these top end cards with 6+8 and 8+8 power?
I know gamers nexus didnt max out the single 8pin with their 1080 at 2150mhz under hybrid cooler.
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if you watch the Jayztwocents video he has to raise power threshold and fan speed above default to get boost clock stable , otherwise it falls back to stock even in an open case when gaming
Yeah sorry, I re-read it like 3 times and only the last time did I catch it. Did an edit to my post, but you got to it first
Still the way Videocardz presents it is very sensationalist. Computerbase states it clearly up front.
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Which is a simple thing to do in afterburner.
I was just stating that even underwater at 2.2ghz the card didnt reach its 120% threshold with single 8 pin.
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but why after spending £620 are you forced to use a 3rd party programme to fix the power / thermal profiling? why is this not working properly out of the box?
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Dont forget it is working as intended. Within nvidias spec of boost and base clocks.
REF cards have always run hot and throttled with stock profile. Something like an EVGA 1080 SC with custom fans and ref board does not throttle. Infact it has a higher boost clock at 1847mhz over the FE card.
It is basic principle to increase the power limit when overclocking past these boost clock figures.