Because DM said 40m, i just used his figure as an example.
Whoever spends 70m on Higuain has to have cheese growing out of their ears..I'll be gobsmacked if someone spends that much.
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All the stuff I have seen about him suggests that he is a top class CB but honestly I think 99% of us had never heard of him before a few days ago and much of what is being said is probably regurgitated from the same few sources.
Mourinho tends to have good CBs so hopefully thats a good sign. If we can get him and Zlatan sorted before the Euros that would be a good start to the summer.
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http://www.skysports.com/football/france-vs-scotland/354563#ooid=pmeGl4MzE6hlJxUHuIUU5r3fxoAW760W
Hes such a handsome *******
Hes such a handsome *******
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Dear lord you really can be the most dense person in the universe.... Vardy to RM is a joke... however if you really want to get into it, Real play an entirely and utterly different system to Arsenal and Vardy would actually suit that team. On top of that Real haven't bought the wrong striker/wide attacker for £10-20mil every season for the past 5 years, Real buying Vardy as a backup/rotation player for a system he'd work in and Arsenal cheaping out on the wrong player for their system isn't comparable.
Higuain almost joined Arsenal 3 seasons ago, buying a player for a 40mil fee, he's a month short of a year younger than Vardy... so we'd be buying him effectively 4 years younger than Vardy at the time we decided not to spend 40mil on him. Not having the athleticism is maybe the dumbest thing I'd seen when talking about Higuain, you don't need more pace than being in the right place at the right time, which Higuain can do. He's an all around player who is excellent in most systems, he can hold the ball up, play a great throughball, run in and get on the end of a cross or score from 30 yards and anything in between.
So yeah, buying Higuain at 25, which we should have done, and buying Vardy at 29..... not the same things. Vardy's contract would likely finish at 33... who is buying him for big money then. A 4 year contract for Higuain would mean selling him at 29, look at the money we got for RVP, he's have resale value although if he did great(he would have) and if he still wanted to play for us it would require a contract extension, no transfer fee and we'd have a top player still.
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DM if vardy had not been suspended for the last 4 games he would have taken the golden boot over your man kane
and? The question isn't how good he was last year, the question is how good he'll be over the next 4 seasons. If it's not title winningly good enough then it's a bad deal, it's that simple. Throwing money at the wrong player is never the right move. Spending more on Higuain would have prevented us wasting money on Welbeck or other contract extensions and we're trying to replace both while being stuck with both players wages which hurts our ability to afford top players.
Buying Vardy will lock him to Arsenal for 4 years, there is no evidence at all he'll manage that form in a second year let alone for four years or more. If he has a bad season next year, who will match his wages and buy him off us, a player who would turn 31 and failed to replicate his form for a second year?
This is before you get into how he played, how Leicester played and how often he'll be able to play in the same style at Arsenal.
Much safer bet than higuain or any other overseas striker that's unproven in the prem
Lets face it if vardy had been Spanish/Italian/german and had same scoring record as he did last season and arsenal were buying him people would be screaming great coup
Goes figure that because hes English it aint the right signing etc etc
Last year we lacked pace on the counter, vardy is perfect
Lets face it if vardy had been Spanish/Italian/german and had same scoring record as he did last season and arsenal were buying him people would be screaming great coup
Goes figure that because hes English it aint the right signing etc etc
Last year we lacked pace on the counter, vardy is perfect
How is Higuain a title winning striker exactly? Vardy just won the PL, did he not? Did you see Higuain in the WC final against Germany? Shocking performance. Funny how you said the Vardy thing was a joke, quite clearly wasn't because you said it several times, didn't you? It wasn't just that quote that i mentioned. What system do Real Madrid play then? 4-4-2? Why do you have to have sell the player when his contract is up? Did Fergie think about that when playing Scholes, Giggs, Van De Sar? You have no idea what youre talking about buddy, the scary thing is, you think everyone involved in football are the clueless ones.
Youre quite simply wrong and you're just trying to bash the club before the season has started..."it's absolute madness" haha
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Yea, he hates the fact that Arsenal are trying to the buy the hottest striker in Britain atm..
Fans have been complaining about the need for a striker at the club, now they are trying to sign one, they're whinging again, it's pathetic really
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Surely Kane would be the hottest striker in Britain?
Vardy is a pretty big risk. He's basically had one good season and he'll be almost 30 by next season. I doubt many other clubs will be going in for him.
Vardy is a pretty big risk. He's basically had one good season and he'll be almost 30 by next season. I doubt many other clubs will be going in for him.
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Madrid play with less possession and frequently counter attack, Arsenal don't. Higuain is rubbish because he was rubbish in the world cup final, well reasoned.
I said Vardy to Real several times, and it wasn't a joke, sure, believe what you want. I don't think many people will sell players when their contract is up.... because their contract is up and can't be sold. I sincerely doubt that Vardy will be scoring 20+ league goals a season at the age of 33, I doubt he'll do it next year regardless of what club he plays for. He has done it twice in his career, once in non league, once in the PL, the chances of him scoring that many again are in the 2-3% range.
Scholes was brilliant every single year he played, he was a proven top notch player who was still playing great when he retired, as was Van de sar, Giggs actually got a bit better in his last season. Comparing Vardy to them is betraying the lack of your ability to even grasp what I'm saying.
A striker who has had one truly brilliant season is not certain to replicate that form for 1 more year let alone 4. There are dramatically more strikers who scored 20+ league goals for one season and then never again than those who do it consistently, let alone two seasons in a row. Buying a player in his peak season without any indication he can do it again and basing your entire attack on him is simply ridiculous.
I don't believe he'll do very well next year and if that happens absolutely no one will want to buy him off us or match 120k+ a week wages. I think what he's done this year is great, but there are also numerous examples of teams who go on an epic run, particularly if they have one competition to focus on, who manage almost no injuries and get to a level of form that is generally unrepeatable. Which is why almost every team who has such a season of form usually comes crashing down exceptionally hard the next year.
When Kane had his first great year, everyone, me included, was saying lets see if he can do it for a second year... largely because there are plenty who have one great season then disappear. Yet Vardy had one great year and now it's a certainty he's a top striker who can score that every single season? For Arsenal he'll be expected to play 50% more games, travel more, gel with a new team, play a different style in a different system and we'd be asking him to adapt to a new team and playing way more games at 30yr old... it's ludicrous.
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Yup, turns 30 in Jan. Kane is what 22, turns 23 over summer having looked it up. If someone buys him he has scored very well two season in a row. He's made 51 and 50 appearances in his last two seasons. He's scored well while playing with european and cup games thrown in. He's proven he can play 50 games a year which is pretty much the minimum a consistent top 6 side player needs to be playing in league/europe/cups every year.
Vardy played 36 and 38 games in the past two years, that is a significantly easier schedule. How often does a team without europe suddenly do way way worse when asked all of a sudden to increase the number of games they play by 25-35%.... way way more often than not it goes badly. Vardy is almost 30 and hasn't ever played that number of games and not only would we be needing him to do that, we'd need him to adapt to a different system, style and players while playing more and hoping he beats the massive odds against him and keeps scoring at a high level.
What other top teams buy a one season wonder striker at almost 30 and pin their title hopes on him... the answer is none. Utd bought RVP to supplement Rooney, not replace him and they got shot of him after 2 years and bought him as he was turning 29 however he'd had multiple top years of scoring at a high level. Even in his injured years his goal scoring was top notch and mostly excellent goals/games ratio. But again even then they didn't buy him to replace the other striker in the team, but to play alongside him.
What are you talking about? Like literally, you are talking nonsense. Complete nonsense. Betraying Giggs and Scholes..i mean..i don't understand. My point was, why were you thinking about resale values as to whether to sign a player, if Vardy can be a player now then who gives a monkey about the resale. 22m will be a decent amount of money laid down on a player in his prime. it's not 45m, it's not 60m, it's reletively small amount of cash for a pacey striker that just did one of the most memorable things a players can ever do, and youre waffling on about resale values. You're bizzare!
Yea, i watched Higuain once and think he's rubbish because of that, well reasoned. Why did RM let him go? Why did Napoli buy him when a whole host of top clubs could have?
What if Vardy scores 20 goals next season for Arsenal, you will finally put a cork in that mouth of yours? Course not..
sorry, should have said one of then.
Why are Arsenal pinning their hopes on Vardy, Wenger has already said there will be another striker coming into the club even if he gets Vardy. It's funny how Vardy has suddenly become a one season wonder, a negative connotation, but earlier in the year, you were basically sucking him off.
Ps...Kane wouldn't cost 20 odd million either, slight difference.
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Dude, it's DM. Don't take much notice.
Sometimes he makes a lot of sense, other times he makes no sense at all. Like as if he missed his meds or something. Lol
If we can get Vardy cheap, then I think it is a good move. As long as he delivered like last season for one season for us, it would be worth it.
Ideally we should also still get another ST like Morata who is young with potential and will be improve going forward, as Vardy is 29 and may only have a season or two left in him. But you never know, look at Zlatan
I just want to hear news that we sold Walcott for 20m+ at this point as I think he has plateaued and is not good enough for us. We can use his 100k+ A week wages on Morata for example.
Oh and most Important of all, we should sign Wenger up for another 3 years