I seriously hope not ( it is only the metro after all), been reading about him last few days and he sounds immemse
I seriously hope not ( it is only the metro after all), been reading about him last few days and he sounds immemse
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If Vardy isn't going to start important games, then what is the point of buying him. Second, betraying Giggs and Scholes... what? They were players who had been at the club for a decade, the club could have thought about cashing in rather than giving them new contracts but these players had been at the top of their game for a decade. There was no risk they were a one season wonder when they decided not to sell them, they knew exactly what they were getting.
They aren't comparable to Vardy, 20mil transfer means very little on it's own, 6-7mil wages a year for 4 years are the bigger issue. If he fails then how would we get rid of him? How well did we do getting rid of Chamakh with his huge wage no one else would match?
There is extremely little chance that Vardy will match last season again considering the situation and team he was playing in. Rest between every game, very similar starting squad every game and carrying brilliant form brings the best out of players. Less rest, 40% more games across the season, a different mentality, injuries and less consistent form make it exponentially harder to get the same level of performances out of players. Had we bought Cisse based off his was it 16 goal half season for Newcastle because they were in the exact same situation with regards to form, how much would we have regretted that?
I'm not saying resale value is directly important, you're taking one part of a sentence and leaving out context. If Vardy had been playing exceptional football at the top level for 4 years and had scored 15 or 20+ in multiple seasons that is one thing, but he hasn't, he's had a single good season and a poor scoring season the year before that. He's never played over 38 games at this level before, he'll be required to up his game hugely and at the age of 29, not 22.
I do not think he'll be great, as such I think about the wages he'll suck up and how much of a burden on the team that would be. I said the same about Chamakh while fans on here were like, meh, he's cheap, how could it be a problem, 3 years later they were desperate to get rid of him but couldn't because of the high wages.
If he played for Leicester and they rotated the team heavily and brought reinforcements I still don't think he'd match the same form with the same team and the same style next year with a few extra games. Asking him to do the same in a new team playing very different football. It's completely ridiculous to just assume he'll be every bit as good this year. Of players that manage 20+ goals in a season, probably 98% of them never manage it again.
Also you were the person who stated higuain was rubbish in one game, implying he wasn't a title winning striker as a result. I wasn't reasoning anything, I was pointing out what a stupid thing to say about Higuain that was. he's been exceptional all year, and the last two years, he had one bad game, that doesn't mean anything. There is no top player in the world who hasn't had a dozen terrible games in the past three years, who cares.
AS for the sucking off Vardy statement, I'll point out it's rude and also say, stop being dense, just about every thread in this sub was talking up where he'd move as a joke with every new goal he scored. 6 in a row, Arsenal, 7 in a row, Utd and England, 8 in a row, Real. I think he had a great season and he was being fobbed off as lucky by many people during that run, at no stage did i proclaim him the best striker in england, the league, the world, get over it.
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Why wouldn't he start important games? If Vardy plays 40 games next year and score 20 goals, that will be good for Arsenal.
It's funny how you try and spin your argument, you were banging on about resale value, so i replied regarding hows it's a non factor if the player becomes good. Just because Scholes was playing for a top team for a long time has no bearing on whether Vardy can be a good player for Arsenal. How old was Ian Wright when he signed for Arsenal? 29 was it or something? He was a non league players as well.
Every transfer is a risk, is it not? Shevchenko worked out well..
Barca signed Ibrahimovich and then sold him, there's many players that haven't worked out at some point, or do you think every transfer is a sure thing?
Notice how Leicester are apparently countering Arsenal's offer with an improved and higher wage, so why are Leicester doing that if they think he's not worth it, surely they would just cash in, or are Leicester mugs as well?
So if Vardy score like 25 odd goals next season, what will you say then? I know what you'll say, he needs to do that again next year, and it'll keep on happening.
What striker would you buy at the moment?
I have no idea how you've come to this conclusion. He's obviously a good player but Argentina could have won the world cup had it not been for his miss, it was a sitter. My point is, is he 2/3 times the player Vardy is? Same age, untested in the PL...how can you not get your head round that?
Yet if Vardy had moved to Real Madrid this summer, you'd be saying the opposite.
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Lets not argue guys. I agree with both of you.
Vardy is currently a red hot striker, but also that he is a gamble considering his age and history.
It's an odd Arsenal signing if it happens. Lets just see what happens next year.
I would rather sign a different striker, but I suppose Vardy isn't a bad choice.
Vardy is currently a red hot striker, but also that he is a gamble considering his age and history.
It's an odd Arsenal signing if it happens. Lets just see what happens next year.
I would rather sign a different striker, but I suppose Vardy isn't a bad choice.
How about Vardy and another striker? Wenger has already said he wants another striker to go with Vardy. Welbeck will be out for quite a while, that'll leave Giroud, Vardy (if he decides to come to Arsenal) and another striker. That's 3 fit strikers, with Walcott and Sanchez also able to play up front.
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Do we really have the money for Vardy and another striker? Personally I would rather save the 20mill on Vardy and put it towards Aubameyang.
Dunno why. I guess I'm discrediting Vardy as he's English and doesn't seem to have pedigree.
I have nothing against Vardy, and I'm pleased to see Arsenal opening the cheque book at last, but I really don't think he is the player for us. If we do sign him, hopefully he proves me wrong.
I'm hoping that Mikhi rumour is true though, bit of genuine pace and ability on the wing, wonderfully two footed, been a long time admirer of his.
I'm hoping that Mikhi rumour is true though, bit of genuine pace and ability on the wing, wonderfully two footed, been a long time admirer of his.
Maybe Arsenal will sign all of them? Vardy, Aubameyang, Mikhi, whats that? 100m? Considering Arsenal only spent 10m last summer then Wenger has a lot left over from last year i presume.
Is that Mikhi a winger? Always thought he was a central attacking mid..
Is that Mikhi a winger? Always thought he was a central attacking mid..
At the prices quoted there will be a huge number of people after him. Dortmund don't usually get massive amounts for their players when they leave so the player seems to decide where they want to go as long as the club are willing to meet the asking price.
10 goals, 15 assists i think. Something like that anyway, very decent return.
His contract expires next year and he's already told them he doesn't want to extend it, that's why the 20m quote is making the rounds. Yea - loads of clubs will be in for him. But apparently he's stated he wants to go to Arsenal or something..
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Leicester prepare bid for Troy Deeney.
Oh I know that's why he's going cheap but most of their players get sold on the cheap after letting their contracts run down. Dortmund seem happy to keep letting it happen. Plenty of clubs would buy them for much more but Dortmund seem to prefer to have a player for as long as they can and then let them go cheaply.
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There is also this Colak dude who has been doing the rounds recently. (Second Arsenal striker purchase rumour)
I suppose they know that they can't keep players long term if they are good enough for the big guns, obviously have a wicked scouting network over there.
One for the future eh. I've never seen the kid play..
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I see Vardy not signing for Arsenal before jetting off today as a positive thing. I'm hoping Leicester match or improve the wages offered by Arsenal. 
Considering the money swilling around - £20m is nothing these days imo even to Arsene (who usually doesnt spend much)
Curious player choice admittedly for Arsenal, but the money most teams would bite Leicester's hand off even for only one or two seasons.
He may never get 20+ goals again but even 10+ EPL goals a season for that price is reasonable (considering how Ox, Welbeck and a few others arent scoring that many)