Arrghhh Chav Neighbours

Don't be so sure the RSPCA will do much, if my experience is anything to go by.

While living down in Wales a few years ago we had two instances of poor dog ownership by neighbours.

The first was a family who's property abutted on the bottom of ours. He had two ruddy great German Shepards but they were either kept outside in the garden or in a shed, not allowed in the house so far as we could tell. They got exercised about once a week which consisted of this guy running them, off the lead, around the block a couple of times. Someone (not us) must have called the RSPCA as we were actually "live" when they turned up and overheard the conversation in the back garden. Basically he spun them a yarn which they must have swallowed, as nothing happened and the situation went back to previous. Eventually they moved.

Case No.2. Our immediate next door neighbour a(single mother with three kids) cquired a small dog. Kicked out in the back garden, constantly yapping and barking (not much fun when working nights). No effort to control or train it. These people also had a cat and the final straw came when we saw the dog grab the cat in its mouth and start shaking it. My missus banged on the window and shouted "oi", which caused the dog to drop the cat which then escaped. At that point I wrote a letter to the RSPCA describing what I'd seen and expressing concern for the welfare of the child, should the dog decide to worry them rather than the cat. And, guess what - nothing happened. Weeks went by, dog still there, no sign of the RSPCA or anyone else turning up to investigate the situation. It was only a few months later they must have got rid of the dog themselves as it all went quiet and wasn't there anymore.

The other thing to bear in mind with the RSPCA, is that if they do take the dog off the person they have a bit of a reputation for putting down pets they can't rehome. So you could inadvertently be signing the animal's death warrant.
 
Don't be so sure the RSPCA will do much, if my experience is anything to go by.

While living down in Wales a few years ago we had two instances of poor dog ownership by neighbours.

The first was a family who's property abutted on the bottom of ours. He had two ruddy great German Shepards but they were either kept outside in the garden or in a shed, not allowed in the house so far as we could tell. They got exercised about once a week which consisted of this guy running them, off the lead, around the block a couple of times. Someone (not us) must have called the RSPCA as we were actually "live" when they turned up and overheard the conversation in the back garden. Basically he spun them a yarn which they must have swallowed, as nothing happened and the situation went back to previous. Eventually they moved.

Case No.2. Our immediate next door neighbour a(single mother with three kids) cquired a small dog. Kicked out in the back garden, constantly yapping and barking (not much fun when working nights). No effort to control or train it. These people also had a cat and the final straw came when we saw the dog grab the cat in its mouth and start shaking it. My missus banged on the window and shouted "oi", which caused the dog to drop the cat which then escaped. At that point I wrote a letter to the RSPCA describing what I'd seen and expressing concern for the welfare of the child, should the dog decide to worry them rather than the cat. And, guess what - nothing happened. Weeks went by, dog still there, no sign of the RSPCA or anyone else turning up to investigate the situation. It was only a few months later they must have got rid of the dog themselves as it all went quiet and wasn't there anymore.

The other thing to bear in mind with the RSPCA, is that if they do take the dog off the person they have a bit of a reputation for putting down pets they can't rehome. So you could inadvertently be signing the animal's death warrant.

It must be difficult though, how can you prove someone is mistreating an animal without sitting there watching them all day? Also do the RSPCA actually have any authority? They probably just work because people say 'alright you have it then' and they take it away to be turned into glue.
 
If you are worried about any act of reprisal by calling the RSPCA (understandable) mention that you know "somebody" who would like a dog and offer a new home?

When you pick up the dog, drop him off at the local RSPCA shelter?

This sounds like the most sensible/productive answer.

In fact you could even make some money out of it, get the puppy off him and then sell it :p

**** i hate renters, no respect. (flame me)

How does this work for us dirty renters who have gone on to buy a house? I don't remember getting a "respect pack" with the house, did we miss out on something - should I chase this up with the seller or estate agent? Should I sue our solicitor for negligence, since surely this is something they should have picked up on?!

Or is it an automatic thing when you buy a house, a certain quality bestowed on you purely by virtue of owing tens of thousands on a mortgage? What if you don't have a mortgage and buy outright - do you become "ultra-respectful"?

Or is it simply a case of being permanently tainted by at one point being a renter and therefore doomed to an everlasting life of scummery?

What if you used to own a house, but then sold it and are now renting - are you still scum? Or does a previous ownership grant you some kind of immunity? If not, is there at least a grace period? e.g. if you sell a house, then rent for a few months before you buy another one, do you have some level of protection?

Is it like an instant cutoff - you start renting and you're instantly scum, or is it a gradual decline over a period of weeks/months?

Please educate us further on the logistics of the renters = scum theory you've put forward :)
 
It must be difficult though, how can you prove someone is mistreating an animal without sitting there watching them all day? Also do the RSPCA actually have any authority? They probably just work because people say 'alright you have it then' and they take it away to be turned into glue.

By attending the accused's house & seeing the state of the dog. In the case I posted about the dog had a severe case of mange & malnutrition, it was bald apart from the fur on it's legs, We'd even offered to pay for the dog veterinary treatment for the owners but they refused, this again was reported to the RSPCA, but nothing happened, when the RSPCA turned up the owners pretended to be out* & it didn't go further. We ended up pestering them for nearly 6 months before we got the dog back by other means.

*The woman who helped us get this dog back knew they were in as she lived a couple of doors down from them.
 
How does this work for us dirty renters who have gone on to buy a house? I don't remember getting a "respect pack" with the house, did we miss out on something - should I chase this up with the seller or estate agent? Should I sue our solicitor for negligence, since surely this is something they should have picked up on?!

Or is it an automatic thing when you buy a house, a certain quality bestowed on you purely by virtue of owing tens of thousands on a mortgage? What if you don't have a mortgage and buy outright - do you become "ultra-respectful"?

Or is it simply a case of being permanently tainted by at one point being a renter and therefore doomed to an everlasting life of scummery?

What if you used to own a house, but then sold it and are now renting - are you still scum? Or does a previous ownership grant you some kind of immunity? If not, is there at least a grace period? e.g. if you sell a house, then rent for a few months before you buy another one, do you have some level of protection?

Is it like an instant cutoff - you start renting and you're instantly scum, or is it a gradual decline over a period of weeks/months?

Please educate us further on the logistics of the renters = scum theory you've put forward :)

I await op's answers to all of these questions.
 
How does this work for us dirty renters who have gone on to buy a house? I don't remember getting a "respect pack" with the house, did we miss out on something - should I chase this up with the seller or estate agent? Should I sue our solicitor for negligence, since surely this is something they should have picked up on?!

Or is it an automatic thing when you buy a house, a certain quality bestowed on you purely by virtue of owing tens of thousands on a mortgage? What if you don't have a mortgage and buy outright - do you become "ultra-respectful"?

Or is it simply a case of being permanently tainted by at one point being a renter and therefore doomed to an everlasting life of scummery?

What if you used to own a house, but then sold it and are now renting - are you still scum? Or does a previous ownership grant you some kind of immunity? If not, is there at least a grace period? e.g. if you sell a house, then rent for a few months before you buy another one, do you have some level of protection?

Is it like an instant cutoff - you start renting and you're instantly scum, or is it a gradual decline over a period of weeks/months?

Please educate us further on the logistics of the renters = scum theory you've put forward :)

I've rented and owned, I'm ever so confused as to whether I'm scum or not :confused::( What about houseshare? Better or worse?
 
OP, thell the dog owner to teach the puppy, how the hell is the puppy meant to know what to do.

Then poo in his letterbox for good measure
 
It must be difficult though, how can you prove someone is mistreating an animal without sitting there watching them all day?
Indeed - My dog NEVER EVER gets fed... we're such cruel humans, leaving him all alone for weeks and weeks with nothing to eat... and, oh look - it just happens that you have steak. :D

Please educate us further on the logistics of the renters = scum theory you've put forward :)
We're particularly well-off scum, given that we're renting a place that costs over half a mil to buy... 750k if you're the retired scum couple next door, but they've been renting there since 1962, so they get a good deal. :p
 
Indeed - My dog NEVER EVER gets fed... we're such cruel humans, leaving him all alone for weeks and weeks with nothing to eat... and, oh look - it just happens that you have steak. :D


We're particularly well-off scum, given that we're renting a place that costs over half a mil to buy... 750k if you're the retired scum couple next door, but they've been renting there since 1962, so they get a good deal. :p

In Reading? That'll be a studio flat then. :p
 
Owning vs renting means nothing of the people

Ive been both, and in the order own -> rent -> own

By far the worst neighbours I have had were owners (probably a £0.5M house at current prices and way away from London so probably a top 5% or so house value by region)
I mean they were a nightmare, didnt respect the rules of the shared drive, so could come out on a Sunday morning and find they had had a load of friend over who had blocked the drive and now were not answering the door to move them. Staying up playing music quite loud past midnight on a week night, that sort of thing.

We have some really good neightbours right now, we own but they rent an identicle house. They trim the border hedge etc.
 
I once reported my neighbour to rspca as they were keeping 2 dogs in an ordinary shed in the day / night. Even in blisteringly hot weather!!
 
I rent and another guy in the building owns his flat, he's a right chav. Is always smoking, drinking, wears trackies and constantly smashes his car door into mine. Thinks the communal bins are in fact a local landfill site so they hardly ever get emptied.

God I hate those home owning scrubs!
 
In Reading? That'll be a studio flat then. :p
3-bed semi.
However, it's rural - No gas, no sewerage (cess pit, not even a septic), electric cooker and storage heating only.
Internet is only available through BT and download speed is just 0.7Mbps.
Local farmers like to work the fields at 2am.

Not suitable for hayfever sufferers, or anyone with extreme dislikes of insects, spiders, bats, rats, mice, moths, birds, moles, chopping firewood or lack of AirCon - My wife ticks every one of those!! :D
 
Suggest to your neighbor to take the dog to the local dogs trust. I'm certain they'll take it in if he explains.
 
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