I've already asked you to provide some facts, why should we hunt for the facts that you keep claiming are true regarding murder\LGBT and Islam etc.
Stop preaching and provide some facts on what you keep posting.
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I've already asked you to provide some facts, why should we hunt for the facts that you keep claiming are true regarding murder\LGBT and Islam etc.
Stop preaching and provide some facts on what you keep posting.
I don't need to look as i said in my previous post, you keep claiming all these wonderful things in Islam, provide the proof, and as the doc said, i also don't need to read about fake gods, you obviously do, provide some sauce for your myths please.
Your opinions are just that, nothing without backup.
From what i see on here and a few other places it usually is waffle because whatever has happened is blamed by them on everything but Islam, not even a small part of Islam is considered the problem, you know where i am going with this, it's the west, it's oil, etc etc, but again, that is just from what i see on here and some other sites.
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Sorry, but that is a work of fiction too.
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The problem is the people who made up all these religions made them so contradictory that these things happen. The Bible is no better.
One of the worst responses I've ever read.
Utter hogwash you may as well imply the 3 year old is pro guns, utter utter nonsense.
The bible is no better, but at least we're not seeing anything more than a few bible bashers denouncing gays rather than actually shooting them, or running around in European city centers shooting up innocents in the name of 'their' god.
I'm just sick of it. If i was to devise a religion, lets call it father christmas exists and it you don't believe it, i'm going to kill you violently for now, anyway, if i did that, i'd be ridiculed locked away and the key thrown. But because its muslims, we have to accept it.. No send em to the shrink for believing all that crap.. find out what part of their mind is malfunctioning to be so easily led.. Devise a pill offer counselling, do what ever, but don't encourage it by opening more mosques !
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Neither is The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster, but at least that one gave me a chuckle rather than a slit throat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
That religion is just as credible as Islam and the rest, Christianity, Hinduism, Mormons etc etc as it is made up.
As I'm sure it is in lots of developing countries, sadly.
A bit different when it's being supported in the halls of power within developed countries, surely?
Let's be honest, when did this thread become about paedophile's in power.
I am not preaching just correcting people who blindly blame Islam, Here are a few quotes to point you in the right direction as their are many chapters that cover the subject, the Quran is a big book I don't want to derail this thread. I also recommend reading the whole chapter so you understand the context. If you really want to know more ask a scholar.
[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.
*2:190 All fighting is regulated by the basic rule in 60:8-9. Fighting is allowed strictly in self-defense, while aggression and oppression are strongly condemned throughout the Quran.
[2:192] If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.
[6:151] Say, "Come let me tell you what your Lord has really prohibited for you: You shall not set up idols besides Him. You shall honor your parents. You shall not kill your children from fear of poverty - we provide for you and for them. You shall not commit gross sins, obvious or hidden. You shall not kill - GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand."
[17:33] You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. If one is killed unjustly, then we give his heir authority to enforce justice. Thus, he shall not exceed the limits in avenging the murder; he will be helped.
[25:68] They never implore beside GOD any other god, nor do they kill anyone - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. Nor do they commit adultery. Those who commit these offenses will have to pay.
[7:28] They commit a gross sin, then say, "We found our parents doing this, and GOD has commanded us to do it." Say, "GOD never advocates sin. Are you saying about GOD what you do not know?"
In case your thinking well does god justify killing no Muslims? Answer is no
[2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.
Neither should you force them to believe
[16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided one
You might not understand these cut & paste quotes that is why I suggested you read whole chapter to get full understanding.
*2:190 All fighting is regulated by the basic rule in 60:8-9. Fighting is allowed strictly in self-defense, while aggression and oppression are strongly condemned throughout the Quran.
[2:192] If they refrain, then GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.
[6:151] Say, "Come let me tell you what your Lord has really prohibited for you: You shall not set up idols besides Him. You shall honor your parents. You shall not kill your children from fear of poverty - we provide for you and for them. You shall not commit gross sins, obvious or hidden. You shall not kill - GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand."
[17:33] You shall not kill any person - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. If one is killed unjustly, then we give his heir authority to enforce justice. Thus, he shall not exceed the limits in avenging the murder; he will be helped.
[25:68] They never implore beside GOD any other god, nor do they kill anyone - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. Nor do they commit adultery. Those who commit these offenses will have to pay.
[7:28] They commit a gross sin, then say, "We found our parents doing this, and GOD has commanded us to do it." Say, "GOD never advocates sin. Are you saying about GOD what you do not know?"
In case your thinking well does god justify killing no Muslims? Answer is no
[2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.
Neither should you force them to believe
[16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided one
You might not understand these cut & paste quotes that is why I suggested you read whole chapter to get full understanding.
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From The Prophet:
Narrated by Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.
— Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4447 see also Sunan Abu Dawood, 38:4448 Sunan Abu Dawood, 31:4007 Sunan Abu Dawood, 31:4008 Sunan Abu Dawood, 11:2169 Sunan Abu Dawood, 32:4087 Sunan Abu Dawood, 32:4088
Narrated by Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet cursed effeminate men; those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, "Turn them out of your houses." The Prophet turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar turned out such-and-such woman.
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:72:774 see also Sahih al-Bukhari, 8:82:820
There were varying opinions on how the death penalty was to be carried out. Abu Bakr apparently recommended toppling a wall on the evil-doer, or else burning alive,[35] while Ali bin Abi Talib ordered death by stoning for one "luti" and had another thrown head-first from the top of a minaret—according to Ibn Abbas, this last punishment must be followed by stoning.[36]
Gays ain't welcome
I was meaning the halls of power of the catholic church.
But, anyway, my point was that the Catholic Church (the biggest, highest profile of the Christian denominations) actively supported such abuse. Does that mean that the Catholic Church believes in the abuse of Children? Do all Christians believe in that? Is there something wrong in their texts that means that children should be molested?
Probably not.
But crazy muslims must surely be speaking for their religion. Right?
Or, perhaps, have those crazy murderous 'muslims', co-opted the power behind their religion for their own morally repugnant purposes in the same way that those kiddy-fiddling priests did?
I didn't read yours as i found my own.
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Ahhh, the 'Religion of Peace' strikes again.
That's not the Quran... I won't bother wasting my time have a nice day.
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