shooting in gay club orlando

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Seems like a good time to drop this.

I wonder how many people take stuff like this seriously?

Seems like a good time to drop this

Obama nails it as usual:

 

[C.R.A.Z.Y]

Seems like a good time to drop this.

I wonder how many people take stuff like this seriously?

Seems like a good time to drop this

Obama nails it as usual:

 

[Danthus]

50 people are dead and Obama nails it by talking about Donald Trump?

 

[Tefal]

That dude is ****ing weird that's for sure.

Looking at his body language it's highly likely this man is actually homosexual and worried that hes going to hell, so he's trying to wipe out lots of gays so he becomes responsible for good deeds in his mind. Why does he use the words "there's nothing to be embarrassed about" and why is he looking down and shake his head when he says it? The way he's sitting and whispering just screams to me that in this mas heart he believes he's guilty of being homosexual himself, he's definitely hiding something and that's what I assume is most likely.

Very interesting If I was in the audience I'd have tried to befriend him for the purposes of a psychological assessment. Does anyone have a link to the full speech? I want to figure this guy out for sure.

And this ladies and gentlemen is why dirst year psychology students should never be alowed near anything to do with human beings.

"Looking at his body language it's highly likely this man is actually homosexual "


Unless his body language was ******* off a man thats such a painfully retarded statement.

 

[Sankari]

So now it emerges that Mateen's attack might have been less about Islam and more about the failure to come to terms with his own sexuality:

US authorities are continuing to investigate what motivated a Florida man to slaughter 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando, including reports he might have been gay himself.

US law enforcement officials are investigating reports the shooter may have been gay, but not openly so, two officials said, with one describing the massacre as a possible "self-hate crime".

That line of investigation follows media reports citing men who said they were regulars at the club and saw Mateen there before the attack.

"Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent," Ty Smith told the Orlando Sentinel, noting he had seen Mateen at the club at least a dozen times.

"We didn't really talk to him a lot, but I remember him saying things about his dad at times. He told us he had a wife and child."

Another Pulse regular, Kevin West, told the Los Angeles Times that Mateen messaged him on and off for a year using a gay chat app. Other club-goers told local media and MSNBC that Mateen had been using multiple gay apps, including Grindr, with mutual acquaintances to "hook up".

And a man who attended law enforcement training classes with Mateen in 2006 told the Palm Beach Post that the slain gunman had once asked him out on a date.

(Source).

 

[asim18]

And this ladies and gentlemen is why dirst year psychology students should never be alowed near anything to do with human beings.

"Looking at his body language it's highly likely this man is actually homosexual "


Unless his body language was ******* off a man thats such a painfully retarded statement.

Erm. ****ing someone off is not body language lol so your statement is actually "more" retarded, so well done

Did you even read beyond that? He's hiding something ffs and he's not at all confident with what he's saying that's the body language. That's about the most tamest calling for killing someone I've ever heard, therefore I think the problem with him is that he's actually secretly gay.

His body language goes hand in hand with someone who's believes they're going to hell according to their own beliefs.

So yeah Tefal thinks the only way to tell if a person is gay is if they literally **** you off , you have a weird gaydar if I may say so.

 

[Scougar]

Interesting on the pastor, as it only says that it is a sin, not a frickin' death sentence. It is no worse than any other sin... what an moron. He's no better than other extreme hate groups, and certainly ain't understanding of the bible.

What a terrible act this was. We can look to blame so many people for the 'failures', but as I see it, he bought guns legally, wasn't marked as a terrorist, and quickly acted.

The unfortunate truth is, people will always kill people, and they will use anything at their disposal to do so

 

[Glaucus]

So now it emerges that Mateen's attack might have been less about Islam and more about the failure to come to terms with his own sexuality:

so you are just going to ignore all the evidence and cherry pic then.
plenty of evidence to show he was radicalised online and followed terrorist propergander, self declared etc.

things always have more than one contributing factor. but to ignore all other contributing factors is well stupid.

for example he might not of done if he wasn't radicalised, and saw it as a way to retone for his sins and get the afterlife. seeing as its one of the highest acalades to die fighting in such fanatic Islam teachings,

 

[Freakbro]

Seems like a good time to drop this.

 

[enkoda]

So now it emerges that Mateen's attack might have been less about Islam and more about the failure to come to terms with his own sexuality:



(Source).

And why couldn't he be openly gay? Islam, perhaps?

 

[Freakbro]

so you are just going to ignore all the evidence and cherry pic then.
plenty of evidence to show he was radicalised online and followed terrorist propergander, self declared etc.

things always have more than one contributing factor. but to ignore all other contributing factors is well stupid.

Umm, to say 1 factor may have had less of an influence than another factor, as Evangelion did, is not ignoring all other contributing factors, is it....its actually acknowledging there are multiple factors and ascribing different levels of relevance

I think you need to calm down a little

 

[Glaucus]

Umm, to say 1 factor may have had less of an influence than another factor, as Evangelion did, is not ignoring all other contributing factors, is it....its actually acknowledging there are multiple factors and ascribing different levels of relevance

I think you need to calm down a little

I'm very calm, its an agenda driven piece that ignores the facts.

 

[phil675]

Unfortunately it seems too many

But you complain about liberals strangling freedom of speech though, and how 'it's been gutted and we don't have it anymore'.....but you don't seem happy with this guy exercising his right to 'freedom of speech'?...and he seems able to do it....which is the bit I don't understand, i'm sure this must fall foul of some 'overbearing authoritarian' rule somewhere, no? If not, it damn well should

He's allowed to say it, I'm more concerned about the fact this is guy said it 3 years ago in Orlando, Florida yet people still try to disassociate the shooting with mainstream Islam.

 

[Threepwood]

Orlando said he listened as the gunman warned his hostages not to text anyone, took their cellphones, called 911 to calmly pledge his allegiance to the Islamic State, spoke about a need to stop American bombing in Syria and threatened greater bloodshed if the police moved in.

NYTimes.

 

[Burnsy2023]

So now it emerges that Mateen's attack might have been less about Islam and more about the failure to come to terms with his own sexuality:



(Source).

TBH, I think whether he felt an affinity to IS or whether he had issues with his sexuality is rather irrelevant. Knowing the motivation won't stop this happening again, indeed this is just a hazard of living in the US.

It's frustrating, but nobody in the US really wants to stop this happening again as they are deep rooted issues with healthcare, social care and firearms which are difficult to change. Despite people's shock, it will wane and nothing will change.

 

[Tefal]

Erm. ****ing someone off is not body language lol so your statement is actually "more" retarded, so well done

Clearly you've never been to a gay bar if you thinknit aint body language

Did you even read beyond that? He's hiding something ffs and he's not at all confident with what he's saying that's the body language. That's about the most tamest calling for killing someone I've ever heard, therefore I think the problem with him is that he's actually secretly gay.

Yes sadly i did read beyond that, it's absolute drivel

His body language goes hand in hand with someone who's believes they're going to hell according to their own beliefs

....no it doesn't, that isn't even something i think a professional with years of experience could come to that conclusion.


But you've done a bit of distance learning phsycology and now you're mystic meg.

 

[Freakbro]

I'm very calm, its an agenda driven piece that ignores the facts.

I disagree, as you seem to be using the 'smoking gun' of the ISIS 911 call as the only 'fact', but now that he seems to have exhibited homosexuality tendencies is just as relevant as his religion in the current climate, due to the target he chose.

With all the 'facts' we have, what the basis to his actual motives were, at the moment, is still speculation, and all Evangelion was doing was stating in his opinion the homosexuality may have played a more important part than his religion - but I think we can all agree both were involved.

 

[asim18]

....no it doesn't,

Oh so you're the expert?

that isn't even something i think a professional with years of experience could come to that conclusion.

Ah "you think", Yes clearly Tefal, you are absolutely the wrong person to be discussing this with, you'd be pretty ****ing surprised at what conclusions a professional with years of experience can come to in seconds of meeting someone for the first time. Be right back while I continue discussing this with some real masters and doctors. Actually no, I won't be right back on the subject of potentially homosexual imams, some things are clearly too intellectual for you.

But you've done a bit of distance learning phsycology and now you're mystic meg.

Umm no i have not done any distance learning "phsycology" ever, nor psychology for that matter.

I'm just trying to understand why this guys body language is the way it is, the possibility that he's homosexual is not an impossibility.

Anyway, does anyone have a link to the full speech pls? I promise I won't post our ideas on OcUK.

 

[Glaucus]

I disagree, as you seem to be using the 'smoking gun' of the ISIS 911 call as the only 'fact', but now that he seems to have exhibited homosexuality tendencies is just as relevant as his religion in the current climate, due to the target he chose.

With all the 'facts' we have, what the basis to his actual motives were, at the moment, is still speculation, and all Evangelion was doing was stating in his opinion the homosexuality may have played a more important part than his religion - but I think we can all agree both were involved.

rofl, so you are ignoring FBI and Obama who have both said there's plenty of evidence of him being radicalised online.

so just no.

trouble is yuou have 2/5 who are trying to say extreme islam had nothing to so with it and 2/5 saying all islam is bad and all need to be painted the same.

where youa ctually need to take it all in context and that is not what he posted.

 

[Freakbro]

He's allowed to say it,

Do you think he should be allowed though?

I'm more concerned about the fact this is guy said it 3 years ago in Orlando, Florida yet people still try to disassociate the shooting with mainstream Islam.

Well, yes I understand your concern, and I'm concerned if he's still being allowed to preach such things openly