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Nothing to me.
Contrary to what some have said here (and pretty much in every thread where Muslims are mentioned for what matter), I saw this posted on Facebook and thought it was very well put and well rounded. No doubt people will pick and mix only what they want to hear, but that's life.
Sadly these extremists aren't going away any time soon. Things will no doubt get better... we hope.
I see Trump has already hinted at his next move on the matter.
Sadly these extremists aren't going away any time soon. Things will no doubt get better... we hope.
I see Trump has already hinted at his next move on the matter.
So you are saying everything in the wiki link i posted is only about effeminate men?
Taken from the same link:
Criminalized[edit]
According to the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) seven countries still retain capital punishment for homosexual behavior: Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Afghanistan, Mauritania, Sudan, and northern Nigeria.[67][68]
In United Arab Emirates it is a capital offense.[69][11] In Qatar, Algeria, Uzbekistan, and the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with time in prison or a fine.[70]
In Egypt, openly gay men have been prosecuted under general public morality laws. (See Cairo 52.)
In Saudi Arabia, the maximum punishment for homosexual acts is public execution, which is often carried out.[71] The government will sometimes use lesser punishments—for example, fines, time in prison, and whipping—as alternatives.
So are you saying that whole link is just about effeminate men? The above is some strict punishment then don't you think.
So question to you. Your buddy down at the mosque, lets say for arguments sake his name is mohammed. He starts inciting hatred and his hate for the West, are you going to report him to the authorities so that he can be investigated, or are you going to be romanced into what he's saying and keep tight lipped ? Because he like you, believes in some fictitious (V.IMPORTANT to note that part) again for the record, a FICTITIOUS deity called Allah.
Odds are 2 out of 3 of you, will keep tight lipped.
Why isn't that number 1 in a thousand? Or even one in a hundred ? Why is that? please explain. Oh and please no more quotes from the man made book called the Quran please. I'm not interested. No more interested than the many bible bashers that try and sell into the bible via a bunch of dumb quotes. Except i have less problems with bible bashers cos for the most part, they're all talk and no bang...
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Are we really arguing if Islam has a problem with homosexuality? It is fairly well documented that it does so the facts sort of speak for themselves on that one.
Individual Muslims don't, and that is to be commended, but the religion as a whole certainly does.
Of course it isn't alone, the Abrahamic faiths in particular are generally intolerant of it, it is one of the areas where liberalism fails to challenge properly, giving religious beliefs more protection from criticism than the more intolerant beliefs deserve.
Individual Muslims don't, and that is to be commended, but the religion as a whole certainly does.
Of course it isn't alone, the Abrahamic faiths in particular are generally intolerant of it, it is one of the areas where liberalism fails to challenge properly, giving religious beliefs more protection from criticism than the more intolerant beliefs deserve.
So you are saying everything in the wiki link i posted is only about effeminate men?
Taken from the same link:
Criminalized[edit]
According to the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) seven countries still retain capital punishment for homosexual behavior: Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Afghanistan, Mauritania, Sudan, and northern Nigeria.[67][68]
In United Arab Emirates it is a capital offense.[69][11] In Qatar, Algeria, Uzbekistan, and the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with time in prison or a fine.[70]
In Egypt, openly gay men have been prosecuted under general public morality laws. (See Cairo 52.)
In Saudi Arabia, the maximum punishment for homosexual acts is public execution, which is often carried out.[71] The government will sometimes use lesser punishments—for example, fines, time in prison, and whipping—as alternatives.
So are you saying that whole link is just about effeminate men? The above is some strict punishment then don't you think.
How do you explain that in these SAME locations, it is also a crime to be openly HETERO-sexual!!!??? You honestly haven't heard the stories about the heterosexual couples who get a bit excited in Muslim countries and end up getting charged?
It's to do with all sexuality. Try going round shoving heterosexual promiscuity in these same countries faces and you'll face the same problems!
In the real world there are at least 20% homosexuals living in the countries you listed, yes its sad that they cant go around having gay parades but when's the last time a straight man in the same country went round parading his heterosexuality and get away with it???
Clearly not insightful enough.
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You can't blame arazi for the puerile mistakes of his chosen hate site.
It was wikipedia.
And back on topic:
It seems his wife knew that he was going to do something
http://abcnews.go.com/US/gunmans-wife-talk-attack-officials/story?id=39841580
You're just a massive contradiction aren't you?
Someone makes a proposition which could reduce the potential death toll in a similar terrorist attack by up to 95% and you completely brush it off using some emotionally charged scenario and continue whining about not doing anything?
What do you want to do exactly? Arm civilian vigilantes and push more guns into the streets of America?
The straight answer to that is: No. It's not a matter of 'perception'.
The USA has a rule of law, which strictly prohibits murder. Buy an AR-15, and massacre dozens of innocents on US soil, and you have broken their rule of law.
I don't see how removing law abiding citizen's best means of defending themselves will make any of safer. I suppose the difference between me and everyone else is that I don't feel obligated to be a victim.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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What is wrong with people being affectionate in public?
HAHAHA how naive are you? Law abiding citizen? seriously?I don't see how removing law abiding citizen's best means of defending themselves will make any of safer. I suppose the difference between me and everyone else is that I don't feel obligated to be a victim.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
And what do you think you are? Rambo? Defending against a 99% of all crimes is a bit different to defending yourself against a man who does a spontaneous 360 degrees spray and pray with an AR-15 in a packed club full of drunk people.
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Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Afghanistan, Mauritania, Sudan, and northern Nigeria.
Going by the context of recent posts.
Probably not (btw - you can't do "spray and pray" with an AR-15, this isn't COD Infinite Battlefield or whatever), but I would at least like the opportunity and capability to defend myself if (Heaven forbid) I find myself in a situation like that. I certainly don't think the clubbers should have been armed - alcohol and firearms certainly isn't a good mix.
One thing I'd like to know is; why did his wife not tip off what he was planning to the police? Reports are that she knew he was planning an attack, and even drove him to the Pulse nightclub to case it out.
That dude is ****ing weird that's for sure.
Looking at his body language it's highly likely this man is actually homosexual and worried that hes going to hell, so he's trying to wipe out lots of gays so he becomes responsible for good deeds in his mind. Why does he use the words "there's nothing to be embarrassed about" and why is he looking down and shake his head when he says it? The way he's sitting and whispering just screams to me that in this mas heart he believes he's guilty of being homosexual himself, he's definitely hiding something and that's what I assume is most likely.
Very interesting If I was in the audience I'd have tried to befriend him for the purposes of a psychological assessment. Does anyone have a link to the full speech? I want to figure this guy out for sure.
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No, they influence the laws of countries and get gay people arrested and imprisoned - see many parts of Africa.