Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Mr Latte · 24 Jun 2016 at 12:51

henson0115 said:
your basing your nope on one game? check all the other pages/games. pretty sure the 970 is below the 390

We have official X-fire AOS scores with RX480.
To get a reference why not look into X-fire 390 / SLI 970 / SLI 980

I dont know how such fares but is it not a better representation to try and follow?

drunkenmaster · 24 Jun 2016 at 12:55

RavenXXX2 said:
nope

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/93740-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-g1-gaming/?page=9

henson0115 said:
your basing your nope on one game? check all the other pages/games. pretty sure the 970 is below the 390

Not just that, the AMD card there is overclocked from a massive 1000Mhz to 1010Mhz... a super clocked edition no doubt. The 970 however is overclocked about 10% and is over 10 % faster than a stock 970(based on tdp and throttling less).

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/86732-gainward-geforce-gtx-970-phoenix/?page=6

So that 10% gain from overclocking would both put it behind the 390 in 1080p and it's already behind in the other two resolutions and that gap would gain.

Only it being overclocked lets it win at 1080p, it loses at 1440p/4k, RotTR is a bigger lead at 1080p but still loses at the other two resolutions. Doom again the overclock lets it win at 1440p otherwise the 390 would win, 390 at 4k, 470 at 1080p. Hitman despite overclock loses all three resolutions, Fallout 4, without the overclock it would be even or lose at every resolution, etc.

The overclocked edition only wins some of these benchmarks and almost exclusively at 1080p, with more load it loses almost every time and to a 390, gets spanked by a 390x.

harney · 24 Jun 2016 at 12:55

BluD said:
Lets see if we can get to 300 pages of speculation on a midrange card before any official info is released

All aboard

re-engaging AMD hype train along with the price hype gain

destination

Amd happy hype valley

drunkenmaster · 24 Jun 2016 at 12:56

Orangey said:
Few extra quid on GPUs or open up for the enrichment... hmm.

Poor AMD though, their big budget offering got blown out by brexit! They were hoping to get back market share with this.

How does brexit make any difference? You realise that A, UK doesn't account for like 30% of all sales, it will be maybe 5%, two, ALL prices in the UK will go up, thus older cards and all newer cards it will compete with have gone up.... meaning % wise it's exactly where it was yesterday compared to every other card available.

RX480 for £200 goes to £215, a 1070 goes from £400 to £430..... price/performance ratio remains identical.

Hotwired · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:07

drunkenmaster said:
How does brexit make any difference? You realise that A, UK doesn't account for like 30% of all sales, it will be maybe 5%, two, ALL prices in the UK will go up, thus older cards and all newer cards it will compete with have gone up.... meaning % wise it's exactly where it was yesterday compared to every other card available.

RX480 for £200 goes to £215, a 1070 goes from £400 to £430..... price/performance ratio remains identical.

Because it's causing prices to increase while spending power is not.

You're comparing price of two cards which will increase together.

People buying ANYTHING becomes less likely.

~>Dg<~ · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:08

Lokken86 said:
Most new games the 390 is a lot faster than a 970. I wouldn't even class them the same anymore. So if it is 970 performance that's a big step-down by AMD standards.

not true doom is faster on a 970 gtx and other games they are so close though its not worth arguing about.

if the 480 is £200-£220 the same price as the 970 gtx and about same performance it needs to be cool running and good drivers.

the 970 has that pretty good.which is why some would probably still buy a 970 gtx over a 480 even if its a few fps faster.

WeSbO · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:14

Just a note to people saying brexit will affect AMDs prices, probably true to some extent at the moment, but it won't only affect amd, it will also affect Nvidia, intel, and whatnot.

melmac · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:16

RavenXXX2 said:
nope

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/93740-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-g1-gaming/?page=9

Sorry, but, it's kinda funny, you linked to a page that shows the 390 beating the 970 in two out the three resolutions.

BluD said:
It differs from game to game, sometimes AMD is ahead and sometimes nvidia. I've gotta say i see nividia ahead more often though.

Well, if we look at the link above, there are 8 games, 3 resolutions tested per game, the 390 comes out faster 18 times. And if you look at techpowerup in their performance summary, the 390 is faster than the 970.

So yeah there are games that the 970 is better but for most games the 390 is faster.

~>Dg<~ said:
not true doom is faster on a 970 gtx and other games they are so close though its not worth arguing about.

Well, see above, but the 390 seems to be about 10% faster than the 970 overall.

h4rm0ny · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:17

I can't believe some people here are blaming OCUK for not playing the currency market in order to avoid price rises following Brexit. Or calling it "gouging" when the pound plummets. When the pound falls, this is what happens - Britain becomes poorer when it comes to buying things from other countries. That's a fundamental. Hedge funds whose sole purpose is to predict the market got it wrong last night (I think they just thought Britain couldn't really vote to leave) and people are attacking Gibbo over not gambling with the company's money! You people realize that's what playing the currency market is, right? Gambling. It is not on to attack OCUK for not dabbling in currencies because your graphics card is going to cost extra following Brexit. Foreign goods now cost more - one retailer, no matter how lovely they are, is not going to find this One Weird Trick To Beat The Market.

Unbelievable.

Mr Latte · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:17

BluD said:
Lets see if we can get to 300 pages of speculation on a midrange card before any official info is released

I reckon so....
The AMD Hype Train also has a new driver.
Get ready to RXit

Blackjack Davy · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:23

Orangey said:
Few extra quid on GPUs or open up for the enrichment... hmm.

Poor AMD though, their big budget offering got blown out by brexit! They were hoping to get back market share with this.

The UK is not their only market. There are other countries besides this one.

kalniel · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:24

I try not to worry too much about temporal price fluctuations. Either a card is worth the money on the day, or it's not. If it is worth it to me, then I don't mind if it's cheaper before or after, because I would have still paid it. If it's not worth it, then it's not worth it until the price becomes cheaper.

There may be some borderline cases, but GPUs are luxury items so it's no hardship to pass if things don't look good.

Lokken86 · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:31

RavenXXX2 said:
nope

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/93740-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-g1-gaming/?page=9

Gimme a break. One game. And most other reviews even show the 970 behind in that game.

Also there's a video review on YouTube somewhere of the 1070 in like 22 games or so. The 390 wins in all but 1 against the 970.

Rroff · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:34

Mr Latte said:
Get ready to RXit

I think before this is all said and done a fair few are gonna be on painkillers

Seanspeed · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:35

WeSbO said:
Just a note to people saying brexit will affect AMDs prices, probably true to some extent at the moment, but it won't only affect amd, it will also affect Nvidia, intel, and whatnot.

A swing in marketshare can only happen if there's enough people buying GPU's. The fact that Nvidia's prices go up too doesn't exactly 'balance out' AMD's ambitions.

Lokken86 · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:39

~>Dg<~ said:
not true doom is faster on a 970 gtx and other games they are so close though its not worth arguing about.

if the 480 is £200-£220 the same price as the 970 gtx and about same performance it needs to be cool running and good drivers.

the 970 has that pretty good.which is why some would probably still buy a 970 gtx over a 480 even if its a few fps faster.

"Was" faster in Doom.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1182-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070/page5.html

henson0115 · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:42

Lokken86 said:
"Was" faster in Doom.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1182-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070/page5.html

this, we had an update which improved 390 performance as there were some issues early on.

drunkenmaster · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:47

Hotwired said:
Because it's causing prices to increase while spending power is not.

You're comparing price of two cards which will increase together.

People buying ANYTHING becomes less likely.

Errm, if people have less spending power the chances they'll chose to buy a £200 card that is now £210 increases as those who wanted to spend £400 but can't afford £430 chose the next rung down. Fact is £10 isn't going to make a difference to most people, £30 is more likely to but still not really a big deal.

But regardless Orangey made a statement about market share, the higher the price of the card the more it's effected by a downturn in economy which means Nvidia, priced higher and with only one higher end card available compared to AMD who will be manufacturing two lower priced cards, will be effected much more.

Either the price doesn't much matter because it is priced against other cards that go up or the potential economic downturn is an issue but will certainly hit more expensive cards harder... neither is bad for AMD.

meldarthx · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:49

The pound has already recovered a bit it dropped to 1.3218 and is back up to 137.20 and we'll see it continue to recover. It might take a few days to get back over 1.40; but it will; I doubt will see major price hike on 480s.......if there is; the we look around for the best deal.....its how we always do it

Seanspeed · 24 Jun 2016 at 13:49

drunkenmaster said:
Errm, if people have less spending power the chances they'll chose to buy a £200 card that is now £210 increases as those who wanted to spend £400 but can't afford £430 chose the next rung down. Fact is £10 isn't going to make a difference to most people, £30 is more likely to but still not really a big deal.

But regardless Orangey made a statement about market share, the higher the price of the card the more it's effected by a downturn in economy which means Nvidia, priced higher and with only one higher end card available compared to AMD who will be manufacturing two lower priced cards, will be effected much more.

Either the price doesn't much matter because it is priced against other cards that go up or the potential economic downturn is an issue but will certainly hit more expensive cards harder... neither is bad for AMD.

You're assuming the difference for the 480 is only going to be £10...