The next Conservative Leader thread.

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Terminal_Boy said:
No way. Utterly unelectable.
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pretty much this.

Buffon Johnson will be sailing this ship to the same resting place as the titanic, but not before the working class get to really feel what poverty is, especially once the NHS goes full private and we have a US style health insurance scheme that effectively denies quality health cover to anyone that can't stump up the premiums.
 
Efour said:
oh jesus people are actually getting behind BJ..
Ok im sadly more in favour of him than Gove.
....But that's like more in favour of being shot than drowning.
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Of course there going to get behind Boris he's seen by many in the party as the hero that lead Britain out of incipid grasp of the EU and to the land of milk and honey. So long as Boris can get through the parliamentary selection he will walk the party ballot.
 
Hannan would be the best speaker of the lot, if people actually listening he could convince the electorate of quite a lot. He isn't an MP, so they should make him a cabinet minister, and then have him run for MP in some place next time.
 
Buckster said:
not convinced by any of them really - as a Prime Minister anyway
but out of the touted names, can only see BJ as a real possible winner
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He's the most likeable out of all the possible candidates IMO, Gove just doesn't seem charismatic enough and Theresa May is Theresa May :D
This doesn't make him right for the job though
 
Indeed, Gove is an idiot Pob.
Reese Moggs name alone is enough to ensure he will not get elected, just looks at the Zac Goldsmith versus Zac Smith information.
May will not unite the people, the Thatcher comparisons would start on day one and never stop, and it'll be 100% negative from all sides.
Osbourne is tainted goods now.

BJ is the conservative choice, and only choice going forward.
Hannan might be a future replacement, but they would need to make an MP of him first.
 
Andrea Leadsom ? did well on the debates i watched

12/1 odds at the moment

boris 4/6
may 5/2
gove 9/2
 
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It all depends who wants to be PM here and now or who wants to hedge their bets and wait for the fallout to settle and hope for better opportunities next election.

Osborne has been keeping his head down for a long time now he's been conspicuous by his absence, he's playing the long game. May is for Remain so that pretty much rules her out, at least in the short term.

Boris it is, then.
 
Nah, Gove shielded Boris, even to the point of enganging in some of the Faragista crap, and did so for a reason: he's more of an ideological, strategical Tory (Osborne of the Leave camp), and he would rather let someone else lead the charge, as far as party politics is concerned. Doesn't mean he won't end up with a decent job out of it all, but BoJo is a top tip atm. After he sits around and does even less with the job than Cameron did, now that's a different game, but that's some way off in the future.
 
I've got a feeling we will see less of the lovable buffoon image Boris has portrayed up to now, and more of what's under the surface.Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen...
 
Interesting comment to an article in the Guardian about this... (via Huffpost)
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If Boris Johnson looked downbeat yesterday, that is because he realises that he has lost.

Perhaps many Brexiters do not realise it yet, but they have actually lost, and it is all down to one man: David Cameron.

With one fell swoop yesterday at 9:15 am, Cameron effectively annulled the referendum result, and simultaneously destroyed the political careers of Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and leading Brexiters who cost him so much anguish, not to mention his premiership.

How?

Throughout the campaign, Cameron had repeatedly said that a vote for leave would lead to triggering Article 50 straight away. Whether implicitly or explicitly, the image was clear: he would be giving that notice under Article 50 the morning after a vote to leave. Whether that was scaremongering or not is a bit moot now but, in the midst of the sentimental nautical references of his speech yesterday, he quietly abandoned that position and handed the responsibility over to his successor.

And as the day wore on, the enormity of that step started to sink in: the markets, Sterling, Scotland, the Irish border, the Gibraltar border, the frontier at Calais, the need to continue compliance with all EU regulations for a free market, re-issuing passports, Brits abroad, EU citizens in Britain, the mountain of legistlation to be torn up and rewritten ... the list grew and grew.

The referendum result is not binding. It is advisory. Parliament is not bound to commit itself in that same direction.

The Conservative party election that Cameron triggered will now have one question looming over it: will you, if elected as party leader, trigger the notice under Article 50?

Who will want to have the responsibility of all those ramifications and consequences on his/her head and shoulders?

Boris Johnson knew this yesterday, when he emerged subdued from his home and was even more subdued at the press conference. He has been out-maneouvered and check-mated.

If he runs for leadership of the party, and then fails to follow through on triggering Article 50, then he is finished. If he does not run and effectively abandons the field, then he is finished. If he runs, wins and pulls the UK out of the EU, then it will all be over - Scotland will break away, there will be upheaval in Ireland, a recession ... broken trade agreements. Then he is also finished. Boris Johnson knows all of this. When he acts like the dumb blond it is just that: an act.

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

When Boris Johnson said there was no need to trigger Article 50 straight away, what he really meant to say was “never”. When Michael Gove went on and on about “informal negotiations” ... why? why not the formal ones straight away? ... he also meant not triggering the formal departure. They both know what a formal demarche would mean: an irreversible step that neither of them is prepared to take.

All that remains is for someone to have the guts to stand up and say that Brexit is unachievable in reality without an enormous amount of pain and destruction, that cannot be borne. And David Cameron has put the onus of making that statement on the heads of the people who led the Brexit campaign.
 
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Theresa May canvassing support among colleagues, expect her to announce Bid for PM in next few days
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I would lose my head if that sour faced bitch got the job.

Then again it would probably be political suicide for anyone who gets it.
 
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