Soldato
Why is it England that has such a high proportion of immigrants taking low level jobs?
What has our country become?
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Why is it England that has such a high proportion of immigrants taking low level jobs?
Soldato
You're literally gagging to slander anyone who has chosen leave.
Why are you making such a statement if not?
Caporegime
Just in case the political bunch of monkeys didn't underline what a joke we've become in Europe, the football ones are making sure. 
Man of Honour
And why does a degree make you better.....
I'll take that as a no then
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Man of Honour
Final warning
Any further derogatory comments towards leave or remain voters will be issued a suspension. If you cannot discuss this like adults you will not be treated as such.
I know this is emotive, but please stop generalising, making sweeping and derisory remarks to the opposite of your convictions. It isn't right or fair.
These threads are moving so fast we cannot spot all the comments so RTM them or get in touch with us. People should be able to share their views and discuss things in a respectful manner from both sides of the fence.
This is your final warning.
Any further derogatory comments towards leave or remain voters will be issued a suspension. If you cannot discuss this like adults you will not be treated as such.
I know this is emotive, but please stop generalising, making sweeping and derisory remarks to the opposite of your convictions. It isn't right or fair.
These threads are moving so fast we cannot spot all the comments so RTM them or get in touch with us. People should be able to share their views and discuss things in a respectful manner from both sides of the fence.
This is your final warning.
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I do completely agree that there are those who believe there are some jobs beneath them, and also that there are those who won't take jobs in order to prevent a loss of benefits.
To suggest that those groups are the majority of working class people shows either a level of naivety or condescension that is frankly a bit shocking. Moreso given that such people have seen wage stagnation, or recession (in real terms), for much of the last decade or longer.
As others have said I can't blame those coming to this country to help achieve a better life, if you could travel to another country and earn almost twice what you would at home wouldn't you? The blame lies with the government for not keeping up with infrastructure to support such increases in population, but equally with unfettered freedom of movement how can you really?
The biggest shock for me was the cries to have democracy removed from the people, because a decision (granted a very big one) went against them, with no thought as to implications for such in the future if they got their way. History has shown us that getting rights and freedoms is a lot harder than having them taken away.
The anger and upset I understand but the level of bile and hatred emerging is something I thought we were better than, and it has saddened me a bit.
The racism and xenophobia, whilst abhorrent, has always been here it's just getting a light shone on it now for the media's benefit, though hopefully this will push it back into people's minds that whilst great strides have been taken to combat it much more is left to do.
To suggest that those groups are the majority of working class people shows either a level of naivety or condescension that is frankly a bit shocking. Moreso given that such people have seen wage stagnation, or recession (in real terms), for much of the last decade or longer.
As others have said I can't blame those coming to this country to help achieve a better life, if you could travel to another country and earn almost twice what you would at home wouldn't you? The blame lies with the government for not keeping up with infrastructure to support such increases in population, but equally with unfettered freedom of movement how can you really?
The biggest shock for me was the cries to have democracy removed from the people, because a decision (granted a very big one) went against them, with no thought as to implications for such in the future if they got their way. History has shown us that getting rights and freedoms is a lot harder than having them taken away.
The anger and upset I understand but the level of bile and hatred emerging is something I thought we were better than, and it has saddened me a bit.
The racism and xenophobia, whilst abhorrent, has always been here it's just getting a light shone on it now for the media's benefit, though hopefully this will push it back into people's minds that whilst great strides have been taken to combat it much more is left to do.
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I genuinely fear about what this country is becoming. I always saw us as inviting, tolerant and thoroughly decent people but it is becoming increasingly clear that we are deeply divided, intolerant and prejudiced society.
It's sad, it really is
It's sad, it really is
The only two people who voted out I have heard from both said their reason was for their children to get a house?!
They seemed to think the vote out would free up housing by sending people away.
It's certainly brought out the nasty side to people.
They seemed to think the vote out would free up housing by sending people away.
It's certainly brought out the nasty side to people.
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The media will have a lot to answer for if this whole thing goes **** up. They have slowly but surely induced the mindless masses into an almost euphoric state of xenophobia and this whole EU thing is just one end result of that.
Ok so because someone doesn't agree with you they are dillusional, back to type.
Soldato
They're getting quite upset over this in Poland apparently. Leaked today I believe, written by the French and German Foreign Ministers.
A strong Europe in a world of uncertainties
by Jean-Marc Ayrault, Frank-Walter Steinmeier
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I think the thing I'm most surprised about, is that people are surprised that there is widespread anti immigrant sentiment. You can't bombard a nation with these ideas though the national papers for a large span of time and expect it not to have an impact.
So France and Germany have decided, but what about the other member states?
Soldato
Free.
Soldato
Don't think they care that much.
Hollande just said this
http://www.expatica.com/fr/news/France-Germany-should-take-lead-after-Brexit-Hollande_712011.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-27/the-u-k-doesn-t-have-a-brexit-plan-but-the-eu-does
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-germany-france-idUSKCN0ZC0BQ
https://www.rt.com/news/348615-france-germany-eu-reform/
http://www.polskieradio.pl/5/3/Arty...ejskie-superpanstwo-zamiast-Unii-Europejskiej
Loads more in there, European Asylum Agency, Common Taxation, FRONTEX to have control of all borders in the EU with new multi national EU Border and Coastguard
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