Brexit thread - what happens next

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Also, perhaps I'm reading something wrong, but remain were also restricted from using the same civil servants leave were. From the news item you linked to : "Michael Gove and other ministers campaigning for Britain's exit will also be unable to use official briefings to prepare campaign speeches."

sorry but you are definitely reading that wrong - Gove was pro leave as are 'other ministers campaigning for Britain's exit'
 
Err, but on the flip side you guys think Farage is a 'top bloke' when he is rude and offensive to them?

Hypocrite much?

Why are you not ****ging off these other MEPs for their behaviour considering you and others ****ged off Farage and his speech?

Hypocrite much?
 
sorry but you are definitely reading that wrong - Gove was pro leave as are 'other ministers campaigning for Britain's exit'

Ok, I see now. The official policy was that we should remain and civil servants are duty bound to follow official policy. I can see both sides of that TBH. Whilst on the face of it you might see that as giving advantage to remain but then equally we don't want the time of civil servants being given up to ideas and policies that aren't the official ones because a lot of their time would be wasted.
 
Why are you not ****ging off these other MEPs for their behaviour considering you and others ****ged off Farage and his speech?

Hypocrite much?

Someone not getting angry at every injustice is not being hypocritical, and trying to paint it as such is an incredibly lazy defense of a position.

"No you see this thing is also bad therefore neither are a problem". Come on.
 
How can anyone be surprised that big Nige ripping the **** out of these people has resulted in them not wanting to play nice? He throws insults around, acts like a condescending **** and then requests that they deal with the UK in a 'grown up manner'....seriously? And people bought into his delusions of grandeur the mind really does boggle.

Another hypocrite attitude,

So it is OK for them give other MEPs a load of **** just because Sir Nige ****ged them off in a speech? Thats fair.

I'm beginning to think that even if in the future it shows that we were right to get out the EU for whatever reasons a large portion of remain voters will still back everything about the EU and the reasons they voted remain regardless.

They will not have a bad thing said about the EU just to make sure their own feelings are not hurt and that their opinions didn't fail them.
 
Bit of hyperbole there, really.

Germany: service 70%, industry 29.1%, and agriculture 0.9%.

UK: service 78.4%, industry 21%, and agriculture 0.6%.

The reality is that most Western developed countries have undergone de-industrialisation over the past half century. The US, for example, actually have a slightly smaller percentage of industry than us (20.8%), despite being the world's second largest manufacturing nation.

Germany has 15% more manufacturing and i would bet then when you look into who owns the manufacturing that it will be German owned whereas in the uk most of the manufacturing is owned by foreign companies so if the economic market doesnt suit here, they have options to move elsewhere at limited cost.

I would call that quite a massive difference in manufacturing. Which is another reason Germany exports what more than it imports unlike the UK.
 
Ok, I suggest you go and campaign for better measures on future votes of this type. However this vote has ran its course under the agreed voting mechanism and the outcome will be followed. If it isn't then there will be a high degree of unrest; guaranteed.

And yep lots of complaining. All over the media. Crazy. Oh actually im immune to sensationalism and intelligent enough to understand that the media are drumming up stories and concentrating on the failure of the remain campaign and interviewing idiots (of which you can very easily find on both sides) is not an accurate representation.

Previous referendum have been legally binding and had clauses in as such. This was did not. It was an advisory one to get a feel of what people want.

If after that advisory vote, you feel a huge proportion of the voters had been mislead, you are perfectly entitled to ignore it. No breach in democracy there.

Both front runners for POM have both said no article 50 until 2017 at least so I wouldnt hold your breath. Yes I am sure we will exit the EU, as to whether that is 2017 or 2027 we will have to wait and see.,

Did the vote last week say "do you want to leave the EU tomorrow?" no
 
My apologies, it was the sidelined grassroots out that he was involved with. I wonder if it was his involvement that saw them passed over.

Where else have I been factually incorrect?

Indeed he was, but his campaign had more money than the main leave campaign. In fact its being investigated fro spending £6m when the limit was £800k.
 
I am already so sick and tired of the remain campaigners who just wont let it go. I frankly dont feel that my vote was worth squat due to the constant protests. In fact, I am so sick and tired of seeing remainers every single day complaining that I give in. Yes, its just one vote , but I give in. Have another referendum and I will vote remain just to shut them all up and give them what they want. What I want and what I vote for is irrelevant, easier to just vote the way they want me to. So , thats it, I throw in the towel. Sick of some of the people of this country. /out
 
Who's said they can't march as well? Have they been prevented from doing so? When did this great injustice occur?

Just replying to a poster on here who thought a pro Remain march was fine but couldn't understand why pro Leave should have a march too.
 
Just replying to a poster on here who thought a pro Remain march was fine but couldn't understand why pro Leave should have a march too.

That was a response to you thinking this would be reasonable:

With all these pro EU demonstrations going on, 2 in London today it's only a matter of time before the anti EU organise themselves properly and the confrontations aren't going to be pretty.
Once the first one happens then that will trigger confrontation at every demonstration and the Police will be caught in the middle.

That is on no planet the same thing as a march.
 
Here's a whacky idea, how about we wait and see if this economic apocalypse actually occurs before we all descend into Mad Max-esque behaviour?

Amazing how people don't think like this, instead their heads are exploding all over the UK like puzzle bobble.
 
it is not a matter that they will need to adjust finances if things go very south which is understandable, just the matter that he used it as a direct threat and scare tactic.

But if its a very highly outcome then why not? Just cause you don't believe it and it sounds so horrible and can;t possible be correct doesnt make it scare mongering.

The worse thing of the leave campaign was the world war 3 thing but the emergency budget and years fo tax increases is pretty damn likely.

In fact some sensible leave campaigners actually admitted that what Osborne said will happen and say its a price worth paying for our sovereignty back. It may well be, but let a person decide that on voting rather than saying "don;t listen to experts, they are wrong"

Or perhaps the leave side knew that if they said "look, we will have a few years of pain and higher taxation and everybody will be worse off but listen, in the long run it will be much better for us cause etc etc" a lot of leave voters would have voter remain or not voted.
 
Just replying to a poster on here who thought a pro Remain march was fine but couldn't understand why pro Leave should have a march too.

Lol didnt say that at all. Nobody from Leave said there should have a march, they said they should take to the streets and turn them red with blood. Thats the bit i said they shouldn't do, marching is fine. Have as many as you want. We all have the right to protest. We live in a democracy.
 
Another hypocrite attitude,

So it is OK for them give other MEPs a load of **** just because Sir Nige ****ged them off in a speech? Thats fair.

I'm beginning to think that even if in the future it shows that we were right to get out the EU for whatever reasons a large portion of remain voters will still back everything about the EU and the reasons they voted remain regardless.

They will not have a bad thing said about the EU just to make sure their own feelings are not hurt and that their opinions didn't fail them.

I'll be delighted if I am proven wrong :)
 
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