New cabinet

Ryan-3 · 14 Jul 2016 at 18:41

If he succeeds in totally wrecking it, it would be another hit for the vast majority (not even just the poorest) of society again.

Sacking the sack of **** would be a reflex action for me.

arctine · 14 Jul 2016 at 18:44

So, the department of energy and climate change has been merged into the department for business innovation and skills, to become the department for business, energy and industrial strategy. Effectively folding a brief heavily focused on climate change into a brief heavily focused on business.

Brilliant.

andicole0 · 14 Jul 2016 at 18:47

I think a song is required.

Andi.

estebanrey · 14 Jul 2016 at 18:55

arctine said:
So, the department of energy and climate change has been merged into the department for business innovation and skills, to become the department for business, energy and industrial strategy. Effectively folding a brief heavily focused on climate change into a brief heavily focused on business.

Brilliant.

Good, whilst the Chinese and the US continue to not give a **** about climate change us hampering our businesses with "green taxes" only puts our companies at a disadvantage and even if we did, we're so small compared to those two it the actual affect on climate change we offer ends up being like a bloke turning up at the scene of an Earthquake that's destroyed a city with a dustpan and brush.

arctine · 14 Jul 2016 at 18:58

estebanrey said:
Good, whilst the Chinese and the US continue to not give a **** about climate change us hampering our businesses with "green taxes" only puts our companies at a disadvantage and even if we did, we're so small compared to those two it the actual affect on climate change we offer ends up being like a bloke turning up at the scene of an Earthquake that's destroyed a city with a dustpan and brush.

Brilliant attitude.

Gilly · 14 Jul 2016 at 18:59

arctine said:
So, the department of energy and climate change has been merged into the department for business innovation and skills, to become the department for business, energy and industrial strategy. Effectively folding a brief heavily focused on climate change into a brief heavily focused on business.

Brilliant.

We're not going to be restricted by EU policies now, so emissions and so on will get punted down the field as less important

arctine · 14 Jul 2016 at 19:01

Gilly said:
We're not going to be restricted by EU policies now, so emissions and so on will get punted down the field as less important

It's not just an EU thing. There are international agreements on emissions, we'll have to see what happens but this is still a concern.

Puzzled · 14 Jul 2016 at 19:32

arctine said:
So, the department of energy and climate change has been merged into the department for business innovation and skills, to become the department for business, energy and industrial strategy. Effectively folding a brief heavily focused on climate change into a brief heavily focused on business.

Brilliant.

Makes sense to me as they are all interlinked, no point having a great climate change policy if completely separate briefs have been created for the energy / industrial sectors.

Cameron said that he wanted the UK to lead the way on green technology and it's a growing industry with potential to create a lot of jobs here so I doubt we'll just give up on it all together.

No1newts · 14 Jul 2016 at 19:39

arctine said:
Brilliant attitude.

It's a sadly common "fix today, **** tomorrow" attitude which always shafts us in the long run. See pensions, see oil money, many other examples but we will keep on doing it because people can't see beyond their next pay check. They'll be the same people at the front of the queue screaming when it all falls down as well

Greebo · 14 Jul 2016 at 19:48

Gilly said:
We're not going to be restricted by EU policies now, so emissions and so on will get punted down the field as less important

You mean with Leadsom "I don't think global warming is true" running it? Who on earth thought that was a good posting?

Newbfail · 14 Jul 2016 at 20:03

I'm just glad she got rid of some of the real idiots (Osborne, Gove).

Boris should be entertaining as Foreign Secretary.

wildman · 14 Jul 2016 at 20:06

Mr Jack said:
Universities are back in the Department of Education which is good, but then they say this "...reforming the higher education sector to boost competition and continue to improve the quality of education that students receive" and there was me briefly thinking things might get a little better for the UK's universities

expect a hike in tuition fess coming to a university near you soon.

wildman · 14 Jul 2016 at 20:15

arctine said:
It's not just an EU thing. There are international agreements on emissions, we'll have to see what happens but this is still a concern.

which we will hapilly ignore in the same way China does no doubt. Good to see that we are looking after our environment so our kids will have a nice clean healthy country to live in come the future.

Tunney · 14 Jul 2016 at 20:32

estebanrey said:
Good, whilst the Chinese and the US continue to not give a **** about climate change us

Both the US and China generate a higher percentage of their energy from renewables than we do. It's shameful.

f666 · 14 Jul 2016 at 21:19

Boris already ad libbing badly and getting boo'd at the French Embassy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36798992

gettothechopper · 14 Jul 2016 at 21:31

fraseredwards said:
Boris already ad libbing badly and getting boo'd at the French Embassy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36798992

cringe

Skunkworks · 14 Jul 2016 at 21:56

I think they were saying Boo-ris!

estebanrey · 14 Jul 2016 at 22:13

arctine said:
Brilliant attitude.

Just pragmatism my friend, when my sister became a vegetarian the local slaughter house still killed the same amount of animals.

Tunney said:
Both the US and China generate a higher percentage of their energy from renewables than we do. It's shameful.

Even per capita (which the Earth doesn't care about) the Americans pollute far more than we ever could.

Faustus · 14 Jul 2016 at 22:58

wildman said:
you won't hear the word, but the actions will be the same. People will always hate on Osborne, but Hammond will just give us more of the same, unless he goes all Labour on the country and just recklessly spends while borrowing a ton of money at higher rates due to the UK's waning credit rating

Would that be the same Labour that actually spent less then previous Tory administrations before it?

Let's be straight here, the Tories aren't relaxing their fiscal mantra because they are feeling benevolent towards the electorate. They are doing it because they recognise just how difficult things are going to get for the British economy over the next few years.

I can't wait for all the Brexit voters to start complaining when they are being squeezed till their eyes pop. You can hear them now, boo-hoo we didn't vote for this we were promised utopia. Bring it on, let the fun and games begin.

Faustus · 14 Jul 2016 at 23:02

Judgeneo said:
Nah, he just abstained right? Doubt he feels strongly enough to scrap it.

Although, one of the reasons it was pushed through in the first place was the EU-wide rail network plan, so who knows.

I think too much money/contracts signed has already been spent/committed.