+ population growth (driven in part by immigration) increasing growth rates.
Unless we change the system governments will still be wanting house prices to rise and immigration driven growth rates.
Brexit thread - what happens next
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+ population growth (driven in part by immigration) increasing growth rates.
Unless we change the system governments will still be wanting house prices to rise and immigration driven growth rates.
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I think he's saying that no other country will agree to the UK having access to the single market without having free movement.
This is a stupid argument because the whole of our economy and its direction has been moulded by being part of the EU for the last 45 years, and it is based on being part of the free trade/EU single market.
I am sure we will be able to cope, eventually, just like Canada, Australia and the US do, but there is likely to be huge amount of upheaval to get there as we will likely have to literally remould how our economy works and runs.
Will it be worth it? Possibly, maybe, who knows.
It could end up being a colossal and embarrassing waste of time and money.
It could work out quite well also, but then I would argue we were already doing very well and punching above our weight on the global stage. We were the 5th largest global economy, which was a fantastic achievement considering our size and population. Do we think we are going to end up no.1 or something? I strongly doubt we are going to end up any better off because of all this.
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They also have a fairly open policy with significant migration to them.
Using the link posted a page ago:
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/
Net immigration for each country
U.S. - 1,001,577
Canada - 235,173
Australia - 204,621
UK - 180,000
And people still complain that it's not fluid and mobile enough.
Certainly won't with that attitude.
Lick the back of your hand. That's what a winner tastes like.
I was referring to how they pick and choose skills they want, I don't know what's confusing about that, they have all these things that they want: http://www.immigration.ca/en/fast-track-high-demand-occupations.html
So if you meet the criteria you get in much quicker than the normal process. If we are running short of backstreet carwashers the government can respond to that need.
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You still have not got it yet have you?
You CANNOT do as you want. Any trade seal is a bargaining process. There is no way the EU are going to allow the UK to cherry pick what they want. Forget that notion, it will not happen.
May and co WANT to have access to the EU single market. If they do they will have to accept free movement. As I already mentioned Poland, amongst others will not trade that off.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36791928
More bad news on the economy front post-Brexit: Anglo-Dutch brand management company Unilever buys US company for $1bn. The fallout from the referendum is just staggering and no way is this just business as normal. Thanks Brexit!
More bad news on the economy front post-Brexit: Anglo-Dutch brand management company Unilever buys US company for $1bn. The fallout from the referendum is just staggering and no way is this just business as normal. Thanks Brexit!
Standard.
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So no countries outside the EU trade with the single market then? What????
Thanks. I actually know a little about Canadian immigration systems.
The fast track still takes about a year or more. The system it replaced was averaging around 18 months for FSW applications from the UK. It's actually much quicker to get here on a spousal visa.
IIRC the skills needed are also only updated once a year.
It's certainly not as quick and as being able to pop over and start work immediately. It also costs around £1000 per application/visa.
We are talking about free access. Of course lots of countries trade with the EU with tariffs and customs and controls on quantities allowed to be imported each year etc,
Right so what's wrong with that? There needs to be a process people go through not just open borders and hope we get the good ones.
Might have been with the Brexit vote, previous two quarters were small drops.
Next quarter will be a 10%+ drop.
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It's definitely not a great model and you.can still access a visa without the skills test to get into Canada - do you think Canada doesn't have issues with immigration?
I ended up working "illegally" for about 6 months in Canada because it took them so long to process an extension to my working visa! And it cost me a fortune to do. I had to get a lawyer to take it on to prove to my employer that I was ok to work still whilst it was ongoing... (Got my visa around a week before getting made redundant too!)
Well that's terrible but it means only people who really want to go there will make the effort. And yes issues like taking tons of third worlders with no skills at all while others have to jump through the hoops.
Because it's not very flexible, takes a huge amount of time to get and costs lots of money to administer. And that's just the countries that have high net immigration. We don't appear to want to be one of those so to reduce immigration to tens of thousands (aside from making it basically impossible for spouses to be brought over) the shortlist will have to be very short indeed.
So all those highly skilled workers we want will decide to head somewhere else that's easier to get into? Great idea!
Where have they said they want to have access to the single market? They've said they want a good deal for the UK and want to curb free movement. You seem to be under the impression that we'll just capitulate to the EU, I don't think May is that sort of PM
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