Shots Fired in Munich Shopping Centre

Mr Jack said:
German police state that the attacker had German-Iranian dual nationality, and had been in the country longer than two years so, once again, nothing to do with Merkel's decision for Germany to step up and take a reasonable share of the refugee burden.
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Yes and no. What I think we're seeing here is the hitherto unremarked effect of mass immigration on second and third generation immigrants already settled in the country.

I am making a big assumption but the fact that he had dual nationality and referred to himself as German suggests me that his parents (probably grandparents) left Iran after the revolution, and are largely integrated into their adopted home. Now thanks to mass immigration that balance is upset; they've got a foreign name. That's something the bullies at school can seize on anyway, only now the effect is much more pronounced.

Has his sense of alienation and isolation ironically driven him to adopt a violent creed? Or was he just lashing out blindly? We'll find out in due course.
 
grudas said:
Am I the only one thinking thatthis crazy media coverage of these events is actually increasing the number of them? I mean I'm sure there are many mentally unstable members of society who are on the edge, have extremists views and want to do something like this but the fact that they're seeing it all over TV, news etc pushes them to do it and they feel it's justified??
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I agree, it's literally the biggest elephant in the room right now - each time there's an attack, they lead with the body count, footage of the shooter in action, as much information as possible being thrown at the masses - who frankly just don't need to know that sort of detail, all it does it ensure that whoever's next - will be temporarily famous/infamous..

 
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grudas said:
Am I the only one thinking thatthis crazy media coverage of these events is actually increasing the number of them? I mean I'm sure there are many mentally unstable members of society who are on the edge, have extremists views and want to do something like this but the fact that they're seeing it all over TV, news etc pushes them to do it and they feel it's justified??
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You definitely have a point the media seem to be giving them the acknowledgement and notoriety they want which in turn will inspire the next one.. I think these should be reported in a way that the attacker is merely just mentioned and the victims are the ones we concentrate on. Don't give this people the attention they want. Don't even mention the organisations involved. That would hurt them far more than glorifying them like the media seem to do now.
 
KiNgPiN83 said:
You definitely have a point the media seem to be giving them the acknowledgement and notoriety they want which in turn will inspire the next one.. I think these should be reported in a way that the attacker is merely just mentioned and the victims are the ones we concentrate on. Don't give this people the attention they want. Don't even mention the organisations involved. That would hurt them far more than glorifying them like the media seem to do now.
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Crazy media that's borderline fiction, jumping on any damn morsel of drama to peddle opinion as fact, is even more of a problem.
 
Charlie Brooker is great, couldn't agree more tbh.
Basically what we have with a lot of these mass murderers / rampage killings is depressed suicidal people who have said to themselves I've had enough but before I kill myself I gonna take out as many of you ******* as possible, I'm going to force you to acknowledge and notice me!!
Very sad and difficult to prevent
 
Well the new border will soon be Bulgaria and Greece.

Good news for Greece with more EU money for wire and stuff.
 
Not condoning what he did but there are reports he was badly bullied at school which I'm sure was one of a number of factors that drove him to mass murder. Idiots that bully could be grooming potential homicidal maniacs. Think before you hurt others with bullying be it physical or verbal.
 
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I've been hearing this "let's not talk about it, that causes more killings" narrative more and more recently. I get the impression it's a stealth way of shutting down discussions which they feel uncomfortable about.

Today's news isn't top-down anymore. Look at the way all the major news channels constantly reach to social media for information. Media are far more likely to push an agenda by omitting certain stories and information than by fabricating it. People want to talk about this, so all the news channels have to cover it. Ratings mean they have to, the same as with Trump or the missing Malaysian Airlines plane. These are things they cannot omit. Unlike say 1MDB or American aligned moderates in Syria filming themselves beheading a 10 year old boy.

The media didn't cause this. A warped mind did. It is people who have the fixation and outrage about it and start threads on the internet about it. It's a good thing they do too, so we don't end up like some other countries where the populace is completely docile in the face of barbarity.
 
So, turns out this had nothing to do with Islam.

The gunman who killed nine people in Munich was obsessed with mass shootings and had an obvious link to Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik, German police say.

Police who searched the 18-year-old's room say they found written material on attacks.

The gunman, who later killed himself, had a 9mm Glock pistol and 300 bullets.
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(Source).

Makes a nice change.
 
grudas said:
Am I the only one thinking thatthis crazy media coverage of these events is actually increasing the number of them? I mean I'm sure there are many mentally unstable members of society who are on the edge, have extremists views and want to do something like this but the fact that they're seeing it all over TV, news etc pushes them to do it and they feel it's justified??
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I always remember how 'car joyriding' started in this country.
Trevor McDonald did a news special report back in the 80s about the new craze happening in Belfast where kids were breaking into cars, driving them around and burning them. I just looked at Mrs Sexy and said "WTF" and lo & behold we started to have our own problem.
 
Chris Wilson said:
The excuses list needs amending again, if he turns out to be "of the faith".

#? : A right wing nut job on the anniversary of the Norwegian guy.

#? : A youth who felt disassociated from society, bullied and poorly educated.

#? : Being somewhat accepting and more open-minded, these sort of organisations won't gain traction as people will have too much to lose.

#? : Whatever, turn the other cheek and forgive him.

#? : He got in early, so nothing to do with Merkel's decision for Germany to step up and take a reasonable share of the refugee burden.

I bet you guys had awesome excuses for late homework..... ;)
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:)

German\Iranian with mental health issues apparently.

So with a split personality he could have been 50% Islamic terrorist and 50% Far Right.

That's a pickle.
 
Billies Bangers said:
It does reinforce ones decision that internet home shopping is the way forward. The High Street is getting far to dangerous.
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This is the future you chose.

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