Summer Transfer Window 2016/17 - Rumours & Signings

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Apparently we are to sign Mahrez from Leicester for 50mill Euro's. He reportedly met with Wenger in France.

Not sure how true this is, probably a load of BS as last I had read Mahrez was staying at Leicester.

I'm sure in the next day we will find out that it was all BS anyways lol. Earlier this week, Icardi and his wife/agent were in London meeting Arsenal to discuss a transfer but within a few hrs Icardi said he was happy at Inter.
 
Arsenal obviously aren't a poor football club, the stadium hasn't been paid off i don't think, they were paying more every year but have since lowered the outgoings as a deal with the banks demanded Wenger get in the top 4 or something, i don't know the exact details but the stadium isn't bought yet, i think there's another 10/15 years left to run on the loan but they are paying considerable less than they were.

I'm not sure what you mean by bargain basement hunting, Anelka was 500k from PSG, just because you spend a lot of money, that doesn't mean you automatically get a better player. Spending more on a player is more of a risk remember. Xhaka was £35m, it's hardly bargain basement hunting. That new kid from Japan will be playing in the Rio games, might be a chance for some Arsenal fans to watch him, i've never seen him play, it'll be interesting.

Yea, a toxic atmosphere doesn't do the club any good, they aren't going to start spending 200m in a transfer window, the quicker you get on bored with that, the better. I am actually more convinced than ever that the toxic atmosphere last year directly contributed to the fade of the teams performances in the last 1/4 or 1/5 of the season. It's a never ending spiral with some Arsenal fans. You wont win the premiership with anything but the best support at home, fractured fans, fractured team spirit. They play only for you, If you don't support them through thick and thin, they won't want to win for you. It's human psychology mate. Put it this way, if you're seeing a girl who's going through some tough times, if you pick her up, be strong and support her, will she love you more because of it? Yes. If you moan and blame her for it, you push her away. A football teams morale is no different..

I agree with a lot of the points you make above mate. But let's be honest fans are a fickle bunch. When we do well they are behind the team and when we aren't then they turn on the team. Which I agree doesn't help but then the team needs to realise that and maybe put some more effort in and try to win these fans back.

I think a lot of fans are just angry that we are a financially stable club but yet we really aren't competing with the big teams ie Utd and Chelsea for instance when it comes to buying the best. Of course I realise that prices are ridiculously high even for average players and Arsenal don't want and never will go spend 200mill in a window. And I wouldn't want us to as its a huge risk if those players turn out to be huge flops, fans would definitely get angry.

Anyhow from what I have been reading ignoring what Gazidis said the other day, Wenger says we are still looking to get more players in. So hopefully he will do that and get us a decent striker and CB. I know we just signed Holding from Bolton but he's another one for the supposed future.
 
Its the middle of July and theres 6 weeks left in the window...maybe calm down a little?
They have signed worldies in the last two summers...i still expect them ti spend big again
 
They have to put something for Robbo to read.

:D

Fabrizio Romano saying Higuain has signed for Juventus https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/756792549176729601

Why would Juve do a medical in Madrid (seems an odd choice to me)

€96m for Higuain..! Wonder how they're funding that... :p

maybe the sale of Pogba.....but to who......(not sure if there is anything concrete in the "Real Madrid re-enter Pogba race" type headlines)
 
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55Mil ? HAHAHA Everton have done them there. Extortionate.

Not the first time won't be the last. When they took lescott it was obvious to every evertonian that the star was actually jags, when they took Rodwell no one even knew what his position was or would be. Now if they have taken stones for that price hilarious. The defensive equivalent of joe hart. Just the same as Manu taking Fellini I doubt you would find anyone crying about it.
 
Arsenal obviously aren't a poor football club, the stadium hasn't been paid off i don't think, they were paying more every year but have since lowered the outgoings as a deal with the banks demanded Wenger get in the top 4 or something, i don't know the exact details but the stadium isn't bought yet, i think there's another 10/15 years left to run on the loan but they are paying considerable less than they were.

Dear lord, the stadium deal has been known basically all details of for over a decade now yet people still don't get it.

No the payments haven't gone down significantly, no there is absolutely not any kind of deal that Wenger has to get in the top 4. there is no bank and no club in the world that would make a deal that required a specific top 4 finish. The bank care about money, not about how Arsenal do, they don't care if Arsenal end up 10billion in debt as long as their money comes back.

It was 30-35mil payments in the first year because we basically didn't pay money back in the first year after getting the money, we essentially paid two years at once, since then it's mostly around 15mil a year, there are other debts we've had, other things going on, so all debts together change a little each year but overall stadium payments were always going to be around 15mil a year with as with any frankly normal mortgage paying off more interest at first than repaying and over time being more repaying than interest. It was always around 30 year pay back time frame for the stadium.

It was always planned to change the deal into long term bonds from the get go, almost all such financial deals are, 'normal' bank loan while building because no one buys long terms bonds in a stadium that might never be built, once built you sell bonds and pay off the initial bank loans with the bond money, then pay off the bond deals over time.

Nothing changed financially, Wenger didn't spend more because he had to get top 4, he didn't even spend all that much he just spent more on individual players a couple of times because the fans were giving him crap for so long about refusing to do so. The debt still has a long time to go, the repayments were always significantly less than the extra income from the stadium even in the 35mil two years in one year. 50mil extra income from stadium.... 35mil payment first year, 2nd to current year and to say 2030, 15mil payments. It's never not helped financially.

in 12/13 we spent 52mil on Pod, Giroud, Caz, Monreal and Iliev, the following year we spent 42,5mil on Ozil Sanogo and Flamini.... which apparently was a dramatic turn around in our spending.

We then spent an actually large amount of almost 100mil on Debuchy, Sanchez, Ospina, Chambers, Welbeck and Paulista... laughably only one of those players was a sensible purchase and in Ospina a decent buy for only 3mil but not what we needed. 60mil of it was completely wasted. We spent more because we sold more players than usual(not specifically in that year, over the four year period we sold a lot and as such had a lot of cash sitting in the clubs cash account) and had more in the bank as well as increasing TV deals but we wasted a lot of that with increased wages for players who didn't deserve it.
 
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Dear lord, the stadium deal has been known basically all details of for over a decade now yet people still don't get it.

No the payments haven't gone down significantly, no there is absolutely not any kind of deal that Wenger has to get in the top 4. there is no bank and no club in the world that would make a deal that required a specific top 4 finish. The bank care about money, not about how Arsenal do, they don't care if Arsenal end up 10billion in debt as long as their money comes back.

It was 30-35mil payments in the first year because we basically didn't pay money back in the first year after getting the money, we essentially paid two years at once, since then it's mostly around 15mil a year, there are other debts we've had, other things going on, so all debts together change a little each year but overall stadium payments were always going to be around 15mil a year with as with any frankly normal mortgage paying off more interest at first than repaying and over time being more repaying than interest. It was always around 30 year pay back time frame for the stadium.

It was always planned to change the deal into long term bonds from the get go, almost all such financial deals are, 'normal' bank loan while building because no one buys long terms bonds in a stadium that might never be built, once built you sell bonds and pay off the initial bank loans with the bond money, then pay off the bond deals over time.

Nothing changed financially, Wenger didn't spend more because he had to get top 4, he didn't even spend all that much he just spent more on individual players a couple of times because the fans were giving him crap for so long about refusing to do so. The debt still has a long time to go, the repayments were always significantly less than the extra income from the stadium even in the 35mil two years in one year. 50mil extra income from stadium.... 35mil payment first year, 2nd to current year and to say 2030, 15mil payments. It's never not helped financially.

in 12/13 we spent 52mil on Pod, Giroud, Caz, Monreal and Iliev, the following year we spent 42,5mil on Ozil Sanogo and Flamini.... which apparently was a dramatic turn around in our spending.

We then spent an actually large amount of almost 100mil on Debuchy, Sanchez, Ospina, Chambers, Welbeck and Paulista... laughably only one of those players was a sensible purchase and in Ospina a decent buy for only 3mil but not what we needed. 60mil of it was completely wasted. We spent more because we sold more players than usual(not specifically in that year, over the four year period we sold a lot and as such had a lot of cash sitting in the clubs cash account) and had more in the bank as well as increasing TV deals but we wasted a lot of that with increased wages for players who didn't deserve it.

It's funny how you don't quote Yas, who originally posted about the stadium being paid for, you quote me instead, i said the stadium wasn't paid for but i didn't know the exact details, i think it was probably this article i read that made me think Wenger and his consistency in the top 4 was a huge part of the loans being approved. Of course you will argue the bbc story until the cows come home, and you'll argue everyone in football is an idiot. Standard DM!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36172291
 
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Chelsea are rumoured to be trying to buy Lukaku for around twice the money Everton paid a few years ago, its just that all prices are pretty ridiculous now and have been for years now.

Whilst I'd love him back at Chelsea I think that's BS as the reason he left in the first place was he wanted to be first choice and start games and with Costa staying and us spending a few quid on Michy I doubt he'll be guaranteed that.
 
He is a good player but he isn't good enough to win us a title is he??

No but he's a good backup and alternative, he's scored quite a few goals over the past few seasons I certainly wouldn't consider him a donkey. We clearly need to make a signing but who is available and who would readily come to us who'd be a big enough improvement on Giroud? I'm not convinced that Higuaín would want to join us and even so the amount of money being talked about is just retarded for a guy who probably has a couple of peak seasons left in him. There's no chance of signing Griezmann, Lacazette isn't the second coming of Christ that we all thought he was the season before last and Nabil Fekir is just coming back from a cruciate ligament rupture.

I also (sincerely) appreciate Wenger's attitude to the transfer market, that is to not to throw money at a problem, to work with what he has through good coaching, however, sometimes splashing a little money is ok.

Same here but his principles can sometimes be infuriating for everyone else. For example his blind faith in the likes of Walcott, Diaby and his other "favourites" for many years, the nigh on decade of awful keepers etc.
 
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