is the present day becoming dystopian

Sliver said:
Nonsense. There are clear limits on resources. Be honest and accept it. :rolleyes:
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Are you serious?

The greatest single factor in the history of human population growth has been developments in technology and the associated social changes arising from those developments.

Prime example : agriculture.

Nonsense indeed. You need to go read a book.
 
RoboCod said:
Are you serious?

The greatest single factor in the history of human population growth has been developments in technology and the associated social changes arising from those developments.

Prime example : agriculture.

Nonsense indeed. You need to go read a book.
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Not gonna lie, i doubt theres gonna be enough tech to overcome the simpke truth that there is a finite amount of land, and a finite amount of energy from the sun with which to produce food.

The only way technology could save us from massive overpopulation is by leaving planet earth and spreading out.

Plus given the amount of people who havent eaten today and probably wont eat tomorrow either its reasonable to argue that technology hasnt saved everybody
 
The birth rate tends to decrease as living standards and life expectancy increase... the vast majority of people in the world today enjoy much better living standards than in previous decades and that is continually improving, this doomsday nonsense is precisely that as countries are tending towards Western birth rates and life expectancy as their living standards improve.


People's perceptions of the world are completely skewed from reality, if you want objective fact based information instead of biased opinion then check out some videos/Ted talks by Hans Rosling (Swedish medical doctor and statistician who has done a lot of work in this area)

for example:

 
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I have to disagree in principle about the 'finite amount of energy from the sun', while technically true, the amount is so vast that the amount of energy received in one hour, is more than the total used by the entire planet in one year

We just don't use it very well.
 
To me, one of the more dystopian things is that over my lifetime, tech has advanced far faster than most peoples ability to comprehend it.

Back in the 60's (say) most people who had tech (and I am talking about consumer level here) did actually have some comprehension as to how it worked.

Nowadays, for most people, the stuff they rely on day to day is utterly beyond their comprehension!

Every now and again one gets the news story about how people DL'd a spoof i-phone app that was supposed to make their phone waterproof (or whatever) and then wreck them by dropping them in the sink.

People on tech forums (You know who you are! ;) :p ) will laugh about all this about how stupid other people are.

But that is not the real message. the point is that most people simply have no comprehension as to how an i-phone (or whatever) actually works and so, therefore, would have no reason to believe that an app might not protect it from water damage.

A society that becomes utterly dependent on technologies that only 1% (or even less) of the population actually understands (even remotely) is ultimately doomed to fail!
 
is it wrong i find its developing too slowly ?

i get annoyed at people spouting VR as the next big thing as if it has not been around for more than 20 years lol.

its still not ready for mass consumption the size is way too big on the headsets. so we got probably 5-10 years yet until its spectacle size with no drawbacks.

in the end it will end like ex machima ;)

we design the perfect AI which then decides to take over and be free.

till then back to pron sites :D
 
Ceryndrion said:
I have to disagree in principle about the 'finite amount of energy from the sun', while technically true, the amount is so vast that the amount of energy received in one hour, is more than the total used by the entire planet in one year

We just don't use it very well.
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Therein lies a problem, we need food, that means photosynthesis, which without heavy genetic manipulation isnt getting any more effecient any time soon.

Same story for power, even with very effecient solar panels etc we need land for those.

The way we produce things at the minute is ineffecient yes, for example eatingnthings like beef as opposed to say insects, for whom the volume of food to acre is much higher.

The argument i'd make is how much of the quality of life (ie beefburgers) do we want to sacrifice for the sake of more people?
 
Orionaut said:
To me, one of the more dystopian things is that over my lifetime, tech has advanced far faster than most peoples ability to comprehend it.

Back in the 60's (say) most people who had tech (and I am talking about consumer level here) did actually have some comprehension as to how it worked.
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:confused: back in the 80s if you had a computer at home you'd tend to have to be a bit more tech savvy than the average consumer. Faff around with tape drives, massive floppy disks, no GUI (or maybe a very basic one if you had say an AMSTRAD etc..)

Ditto to if you wanted to access the internet, use e-mail etc.. in the early 90s

now we take that stuff for granted and carry in our pockets phones that are far more powerful and can access the internet easily

our PCs/Macs are intuitive and install drivers automatically, we can plug and play a bunch of devices... General tech understanding has increased and kids as always have no trouble using the latest devices.
 
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