Brexit thread - what happens next

Caged · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:12

What's the "it" in your conviction of a thing collapsing?

Cern · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:40

Sega Mega Dave said:
The EU is a cancer that needs removing. It's a dictatorship where those in charge were never voted in.

Total myth.

Some reading material for you:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/13/is-the-eu-undemocratic-referendum-reality-check
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36429482
http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-the-eu-undemocratic-2016-3
http://ec.europa.eu/about/index_en.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_to_the_European_Parliament

I think you'll see the word "elected" appear a lot in those articles.

And this is why Remainers aren't happy with the referendum result, because a lot of people voted on the basis of disinformation, lies and myth.

Skunkworks · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:47

Cern said:
And this is why Remainers aren't happy with the referendum result, because a lot of people voted on the basis of disinformation, lies and myth.

I know, all those who wanted to vote Leave but were scared by the threat of war.

Nate--IRL-- · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:51

Cern said:
Total myth.

Some reading material for you:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/13/is-the-eu-undemocratic-referendum-reality-check
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36429482
http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-the-eu-undemocratic-2016-3
http://ec.europa.eu/about/index_en.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_to_the_European_Parliament

I think you'll see the word "elected" appear a lot in those articles.

And this is why Remainers aren't happy with the referendum result, because a lot of people voted on the basis of disinformation, lies and myth.

Quite Clearly liberal propaganda.

Nate

Mulder · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:55

I think you lot are a bit late, we had these debates months ago....

datalol-jack · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:56

Nate--IRL-- said:
Quite Clearly liberal propaganda.

Nate

Business Insider -- that veritable bastion of Socialism, even!

V F · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:58

Mulder said:
I think you lot are a bit late, we had these debates months ago....

Everyday is a debate.

datalol-jack · 24 Jul 2016 at 22:59

Mulder said:
I think you lot are a bit late, we had these debates months ago....

This is GD; like a shark it has to keep swimming or it'll die.

Skunkworks · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:10

This is GD, where people who say "this is GD" live.

datalol-jack · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:19

Skunkworks said:
This is GD, where people who say "this is GD" live.

Says the man who ghosts in invisible mode, popping up like a bad rash at the first sign of controversy, with an overall contribution quality frigidly stuck a micro-notch above absolute zero and just below clowning school dropout on the Dunning–Kruger scale. Always a pleasure, sir. Have you considered working for the Telegraph?

Skunkworks · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:22

If only I had £1 for every time someone's said that.

Billies Bangers · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:23

Sega Mega Dave said:
The EU is a cancer that needs removing. It's a dictatorship where those in charge were never voted in.

If people think countries are going to be stubborn towards us when creating trade deals then they really have fell for the fear mongering. Business is business.

Remainers should be ashamed. They make this country weak.

Also people asking for a second referendum make me laugh. What do we do keep voting until you get the outcome you want. We voted, majority had the sense to vote correctly and in the long term if we don't half arise it we will benefit. The EU will collapse within the next couple of decades and it will be glorious.

It's posts like the above that convince me more than ever that the electorate should never be trusted with voting for anything more complicated than do you want an ice cream yes or no. :rolleyes:

Mr Badger · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:24

Skunkworks said:
I know, all those who wanted to vote Leave but were scared by the threat of war.

Yes, that was another big lie of the Leave campaign. Unless you can show where Remain stated that Brexit would cause WW3?

Skunkworks · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:29

I said war.

Billies Bangers · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:30

robfosters said:
BBC already reporting the chancellor has started talks on a multi billion pound trade deal with China.

That should read - The chancellor goes cap in hand to the Chinese and begs them to dig us out of the s **t. :rolleyes:

Have you seen some of the Chinese trade deals? They are the toughest negotiators there are and always want their pound of flesh.

FoxEye · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:30

Billies Bangers said:
It's posts like the above that convince me more than ever that the electorate should never be trusted with voting for anything more complicated than do you want an ice cream yes or no.

Who, hold on there, I'm not sure I can make that decision. Can we please have a months-long campaign of disinformation from both sides, so that I can ultimately toss or coin or go with my gut instinct?

Like the outcome or not, the referendum was abysmally conducted. I'm not sure if it was just because nobody had any clue what a post-Brexit UK might look like, or if (like you) they didn't think we could handle a grown-up fact-based process.

robfosters · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:33

The seething never stops. Please please please accept it and discuss moving forward. Not going over the same old ground. Our own prime minister has said in no uncertain terms, Brexit means Brexit. That's it, done.

Skunkworks · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:34

The ever more authoritarian left love to choose who can and can’t vote.

Greebo · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:34

Billies Bangers said:
That should read - The chancellor goes cap in hand to the Chinese and begs them to dig us out of the s **t.

Have you seen some of the Chinese trade deals? They are the toughest negotiators there are and always want their pound of flesh.

Correct. Look at their latest Chinese deal. China gets 15 years tariff free imports before the other country gets parity.

Can't wait

And don't forget it was the last time we were negotiating with the Chinese about investment that killed off the British steel industry or they wouldn't invest.

Stretch · 24 Jul 2016 at 23:51

robfosters said:
The seething never stops. Please please please accept it and discuss moving forward. Not going over the same old ground. Our own prime minister has said in no uncertain terms, Brexit means Brexit. That's it, done.

This is absolute rubbish. People are entitled to continue to stick up for their own, and the countries interests as they see fit. The referendum wasn't the last and immutable word of a divine being. After all, we've had referendums on the EU in the past, but it didn't stop the very vocal objects to the EU continuing ever since.

Our own PM, (that non of us voted for) hasn't even defined what Brexit means. So Brexit means Brexit, actually mean precisely nothing. Those of us that voted remain will make sure it means as little as possible, if anything.