Punching kids on public transport

Tummy said:
Putting your feet up on a seat is hardly the barometer of a failed education/socialisation in a person, to be honest.



Now your turn.
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You haven't answered my question. You're forgetting the kid also verbally assaulted the adult. So I'll ask again, has whatever parenting or education he's received so far worked?
 
Dis86 said:
You haven't answered my question. You're forgetting the kid also verbally assaulted the adult. So I'll ask again, has whatever parenting or education he's received so far worked?
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As you really using a child (aged 8-11) putting his feet on a seat as the barometer of a failed socialisation/education? :D:D.
 
Tummy said:
As you really using a child (aged 8-11) putting his feet on a seat as the barometer of a failed socialisation/education? :D:D.
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You're still not answering the question. And you're again ignoring the full situation and his actions.
 
Tummy said:
Except that was the conductor of the train you were on. You were not aged 8-11 and assaulted by a member of the public.
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Oh I didn't mean punch anyone. Retaliate yes but never instigate.

I don't care if they are 8 or 68. They need discipline that is sadly lacking in some parents nowadays with the 'talk to them' until they are so bored they don't listen or care.... I have relatives who are very well to do but their kids are little ***** because they never discipline them - they believe in talking to the child and explaining the problem. That doesn't actually work.... it turns the kid into a know-it-all who gets bullied at school for believing they are above everyone else... I have other relatives where the parents have been through so much in their lives no one should ever have to deal with it but their kids are fantastic! Disciplined properly and as a result a delight to be around.

I'm not saying beat them, but certainly discipline them. I was in a hospital the other week with kids running across the chairs in mucky shoes. I nearly pulled the kid off the chairs but I had to keep peace as it was a friend of a friends child.
 
Not sure i'd go for that level of reaction, but i'll not deny there's something to be said for the older generations way of doing things.

Kids got cheeky in them days were lucky they got just a clip round the ear, and if they were unlucky they got a clip round the ear dragged to their home and their father would beat them once he found out.

Considering that generation and those before did some of the ballsiest things imaginable in humanitiy's darkest days then maybe theres something to it.
 
Dis86 said:
You're still not answering the question. And you're again ignoring the full situation and his actions.
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I have answered the question, I do not believe that a pre teen putting their feet up on a seat is the correct way to judge if a child has been educated/socialised 'correctly'. ****. I have even seen grown up people do it, the ******* horror.

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The man instigated the confrontation, in which he approached a group of three children (aged 8-11) and on the second confrontation physically assaulted them. I hope he is arrested and charged with assault.
 
Tummy said:
I have answered the question, I do not believe that a pre teen putting their feet up on a seat is the correct way to judge if a child has been educated/socialised 'correctly'. ****. I have even seen grown up people do it, the ******* horror.

:).

The man instigated the confrontation, in which he approached a group of three children (aged 8-11) and on the second confrontation physically assaulted them. I hope he is arrested and charged with assault.
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But again you're ignoring the situation. What about the verbal assault the man received?
 
helpimcrap said:
I'm not saying beat them, but certainly discipline them. I was in a hospital the other week with kids running across the chairs in mucky shoes. I nearly pulled the kid off the chairs but I had to keep peace as it was a friend of a friends child.
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Sorry, but I fail to believe that? If on a ward; a nurse or heaven forbid a doctor would absolutely not tolerate that. Besides, causing a child to potentially, physically injure themselves in a vein attempt to teach them a lesson is pretty low.
 
Dis86 said:
But again you're ignoring the situation. What about the verbal assault the man received?
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No I am not. The man instigated this with the verbal confrontation, which lead to the 'cocky' children's retort. They removed their feet from the seat, to do it again later and this time be assaulted over it.

There is no quote attributed to the children in relation to a verbal assault, the man approaching the children and the confrontation that followed is assault too, which was before the 'cocky' retort.
 
Tummy said:
Sorry, but I fail to believe that? If on a ward; a nurse or heaven forbid a doctor would absolutely not tolerate that. Besides, causing a child to potentially, physically injure themselves in a vein attempt to teach them a lesson is pretty low.
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Tolerate it or not it happened.....

Teaching them a lesson by preventing them from injuring themselves from running across chairs?

You're a parent I'm guessing? :rolleyes:
 
we need more blokes like him then perhaps we'd have fewer chavs sticking their dirty trainers on train seats and listening to music using their phone speakers
 
Tummy said:
No I am not. The man instigated this with the verbal confrontation, which lead to the 'cocky' children's retort. They removed their feet from the seat, to do it again later and this time be assaulted over it.

There is no quote attributed to the children in relation to a verbal assault, the man approaching the children and the confrontation that followed is assault too, which was before the 'cocky' retort.
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You're dismissing a verbal assault as being 'cocky'.
 
helpimcrap said:
Tolerate it or not it happened.....

Teaching them a lesson by preventing them from injuring themselves from running across chairs?

You're a parent I'm guessing? :rolleyes:
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I failed to believe that behaviour / mess would be tolerated on any ward in a hospital.

Teaching them a lesson by intentionally removing a chair, which could result in the potential injury you are wanting them to be fearful of? :D.

Nope. I have no children, to my knowledge :), oh wait, I should :rolleyes:.
 
Tummy said:
I failed to believe that behaviour / mess would be tolerated on any ward in a hospital.

Teaching them a lesson by intentionally removing a chair, which could result in the potential injury you are wanting them to be fearful of? :D.

Nope. I have no children, to my knowledge :), oh wait, I should :rolleyes:.
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You don't believe 3rd party fair enough... I believe my eyes and ears.

I never suggested removing a chair - that was you putting words into my mouth. I suggested pushing them off. ;) :p :D Just simple discipline is enough but it needs to come from someone who is a relative otherwise people are so funny about men around kids nowadays it's simply not worth the hassle.

You were so narrow-minded I assumed you were a parent of said children. ;) :p :D lol
 
helpimcrap said:
You don't believe 3rd party fair enough... I believe my eyes and ears.

I never suggested removing a chair - that was you putting words into my mouth. I suggested pushing them off. ;) :p :D Just simple discipline is enough but it needs to come from someone who is a relative otherwise people are so funny about men around kids nowadays it's simply not worth the hassle.

You were so narrow-minded I assumed you were a parent of said children. ;) :p :D lol
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Discipline =/= violence and assault.
 
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