To win10, or not to win10?

Rroff said:
We won't be using 10 any time soon at work (not my call) that said I think the last of the ME systems has only just disappeared and we even have quite a few XP systems.
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I came across a customer who was still using windows 98 and windows 2000!! a few months ago.

they connected a WD USB hdd and I had to go find the drivers manually for it, was quite painful!! lol
 
Rroff said:
Those are the main hang ups for me - if they polished up the UI and/or added some additional themes for those of us who don't like blocky, almost monochrome looks, gave better control back over some aspects like the update stuff and fixed the start menu and explorer so it was more stable and better performing I'd have a lot less reason to not use it/not recommend it.

Being able to yank all the privacy stuff out in one go and/or having a slider so you could set what level you were happy with and everything including new additions used that slider setting by default for what they should use it would be nice as well.
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Plenty of third party Start menus, as to looks plenty of layout themes over at Stardock if you don't mind paying, as to privacy again third party software to change quite a few of those settings ie here http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/ .

It's quite funny since when I look and use Win7 on a family members PC it looks quite dated to me, too bad their laptop is not upgradable to 10, ironically they want 10 but it's a no go on their laptop.


In my case I'll be honest and say I've not seen any deal breakers with OS upgrades since Win95(WinME the only one I avoided).
 
titaniumx3 said:
Windows 7 was the best OS and always will be in my books, but all good things must come to an end. :(
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Bah wrong!!!!!.... Dos 6.22 was awesome for me, I learnt so much on that, having to actually use your brain, memory remapping to get games to run, DOS commands, IRQ jumper switches, ah good old days, nowadays everybody has a spoon fed OS and they are still not happy lol .

:)
 
I have an older pc, and I use a specific driver for my graphics card because the newer ones are a bit buggy. First of all, safe mode isn't simply F8 during boot, which is annoying. Why change something which has been established for decades? Anyway, I can live with that. So I install my specific driver, restart, and after a little while my second monitor goes blank and my Nvidia panel in the notification area has gone. I restart again, and W10 has inexplicably installed the latest graphics drivers.

It's this crap which I hate. No Windows, you do not know what I want. Stop trying to dictate how my pc should run

-edit- You can't even rearrange jump lists in the taskbar. What a joke.
 
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The update and compatibility icon was broken for me so I had to install the upgrade from 7 to 10 the other way. Anyway I let it get to 90% and I chickened out and cancelled the update. I left it for a further two days and tried again and after 10% the message "somethings gone wrong appeared" and the update failed and I thought to myself that the decision to upgrade had been taken out of my hands; so to hell with it. After a night's uninterrupted use of Windows 7 I closed down and returned the following night to a message that said now installing your update. After about 45 minutes the PC rebooted with windows 10 and only one major issue leaving me unable to log on because of the nightmare of trying to get my Madcatz keyboard to work. Apart from that it's been fine.
 
Does a Win10 upgrade at any point invalidate the key for your old OS? I know after thirty days the upgrade will delete the backup of the older OS, but is it still possible to install the old OS from scratch with the original CD and key after that 30 day period?
 
Art said:
Does a Win10 upgrade at any point invalidate the key for your old OS? I know after thirty days the upgrade will delete the backup of the older OS, but is it still possible to install the old OS from scratch with the original CD and key after that 30 day period?
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windows 10 goes by hardware ID.

after 30 days you can go back to your old OS but will require a complete OS re install as the files are removed after 30 days.

i used windows 10 for a good 4 months and then had enough of all the issues and went back to 7 where i haven't seen a single issue i had in 10
 
I've been racking my brain since this thread started trying to think of anything I haven't liked about Windows 10 to the point of it being an irritation. There's only been one for me, and that's the diabolically poor quality of the native video renderer. It's easily fixed in a matter of minutes if your media player supports madVR for precision rendering though, so it's not a major issue.
 
Hotwired said:
What OS do you think the major supermarkets use on their till computers.

Tends to be XP

It's not cutting edge stuff to run a till computer and when it works no one cares.
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Sainsbury's is (or at least was a few years ago) on Win2000 for the EPOS, and XP for self scan, touch-screen scales and the office PCs.

I work for one of the largest public-sector organisations in Scotland and we're still on XP. Some areas are on 8.1 and have been for a little while, but we won't get it until later this year (originally supposed to be last summer, then last winter, then this easter, then this summer...).
 
Smeghead said:
Curious about this also.
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I think you'll be fine if it's a Pro or maybe any Retail version of Win7 as you should retain the right to transfer the OS between machines. That right never existed for OEM Win7, so you won't have necessarily lost any rights you had before if you didn't have them in the first place.

My Win10 Pro (an upgrade from Win7 Pro) whinged about an invalid product key when transferring to another PC, but this was easily fixed by typing in the original Win7 Pro product key again. It did make me sweat for a while though as I initially thought it was a goner. :D
 
TheVoice said:
Sainsbury's is (or at least was a few years ago) on Win2000 for the EPOS, and XP for self scan, touch-screen scales and the office PCs.
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Not sure about Sainsbury's itself but I work in something related - trialling upgrading to Windows 10 on the EPOS and other POS related systems was an absolute disaster apparently (amongst other things like someone complained about here they have a tendency to throw up fullscreen notifications that you can't properly manage - it is like no one at MS has bothered to test the OS in a real environment outside of a highly idealistic concept of how a business works). (I believe they've been migrating a lot of those systems from ME to Linux based embedded setups but it isn't my department).
 
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For most of the electronics/semiconductor companies I have worked for, windows laptop predominately just for outlook/ppt/word and VPN onto a linux server where the multi-million tools from the likes of cadence/synopsys are run so the windows user interface not so important, reliability is though, usually IT department have deployed win 7 patches when they have established they are safe, I will have to ask how they could manage that with win 10 (laptop arbitrarily re-booting some time during the day would not be ideal)
 
A history of my OS'

Dos 3,4,5,6
Win 3, 3.11
Win 95 skipped
Win 98, 98SE
Win ME skipped
Win 2000
Win XP
Win Vista skipped
Win 7 Ult.
Win 8, 8.1 skipped
Win 10 Pro.

So far since Sept last year Win 10 has not skipped a beat, overall very pleased.
 
So the free upgrade finishes in just over 7 hours and I still cannot decide whether to upgrade!

I have no problems with W7 and use my PC for general usual stuff and playing Dota2.

I think the main reason Im reluctant to upgrade is because I used Win 8 on a friend's laptop and it was just so so bad..and for some reason I think 10 is gonna be the same, as 7 is still so simple and good.

If I do upgrade how much HD space will I need? I only have about 5GB free on my 120GB SSD. I have a 240GB SSD I have been planning to clone the 120 on to for a while but havent had the time. Better to do that before or after?
 
A2Z said:
So the free upgrade finishes in just over 7 hours and I still cannot decide whether to upgrade!

I have no problems with W7 and use my PC for general usual stuff and playing Dota2.

I think the main reason Im reluctant to upgrade is because I used Win 8 on a friend's laptop and it was just so so bad..and for some reason I think 10 is gonna be the same, as 7 is still so simple and good.

If I do upgrade how much HD space will I need? I only have about 5GB free on my 120GB SSD. I have a 240GB SSD I have been planning to clone the 120 on to for a while but havent had the time. Better to do that before or after?
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I think it's around 20GB for 64 bit version so yes that 240GB SSD will come in handy, you can go back to Win7 if things don't work out for you so worth trying to see how it goes, DOTA2 works ok on Win10.

Good luck if you do try Win10, it's quite polished after a year IMHO, I've two Win10 upgrades, my brothers 7 to 10 went smooth on his laptop as well.
 
A2Z said:
I think the main reason Im reluctant to upgrade is because I used Win 8 on a friend's laptop and it was just so so bad..and for some reason I think 10 is gonna be the same, as 7 is still so simple and good.
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I have win 10 behaving similar to win 7 although it does look different in places but pleasantly so.

Don't go by win 8, that was a crock
 
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