No he doesn't have a point. It's a general discussion forum. If you see a thread that doesn't interest you don't enter it. It really is that simple.
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No he doesn't have a point. It's a general discussion forum. If you see a thread that doesn't interest you don't enter it. It really is that simple.
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but surely having a tidy up makes the forum easier to navigate. Considering the frequency of us shootings, they should be bundled together. Obviously if you aren't interested in something, you don't enter it. That goes without saying....well, you know....most places it goes without saying
What is it with these "upset" and "crying" replies?
Are they still the latest gaming come backs?
Telling people they are "upset" by engaging in their terrible thread?
Is it just incredibly weak and generic come back akin to "Your mum."
I really pity the youth of today..... oh **** you are 40 ok well ....
Really just wow.
So much butt hurt. (Am i doing it right ? )
oh look its a pointless reply to a pointless reply! You win I'm going to have a quick cry before starting cooking dinner.
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Ummmm ok that's a bit of stretch, but as I said you're clearly upset about something. I don't really know what to say to you. Clearly you have issues. Anyway, enjoy your dinner.
I guess if there were 13500 deaths a year by dog or truck attack, we might think to do something about it.
But wait a minute...
Didn't Trump say that things would be much safer if everyone had guns? Well, everyone in Texas has guns
Stop being sensible, we'll have less of that malarkey round ere.
Well, everyone in Texas has guns
Problem is most of them are concealed under ..............
Terrorist attacks = religous arguement
US shootings = gun laws
Photshop my mate = Jimmy Saville
Ebay = Scam
This is why i like GD, you can tell from the thread title which can of worms has been opened
Advice Needed = I can't function in real life and require the thoughts of others for the blindingly obvious
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Advice Needed = I can't function in real life and require the thoughts of others for the blindingly obvious
I love those threads
Understandable and a fair point to be sure.
As an American and a Texan who has a 'license to carry' I'll give you my pov and hope that helps.
Guns in America are as culturally ingrained as the Monarchy is in the UK. If you can understand why you still have a Monarch and why you haven't gotten rid of them then you're on your way to understanding guns in America.
Right or wrong, good or bad.
There has always been a very strong sense of 'self reliance' prevalent in the US going back to pre-revolutionary days. That hasn't changed. The right to defend ones self and ones property is sacrosanct.
In the western states it's still possible to find yourself, literally, hundreds of miles from, well, anywhere. I don't want to have a broken down car on a farm road in west Texas without a gun. Not that people in west Texas are bad, but some are like anywhere else. Plus the fact that there are still varmints to worry about.
While this gun violence is deplorable and tragic to be sure, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that more people die in America as the result of drunk driving than as the result of gun violence. I don't see people thumping their chest and demanding we outlaw alcohol or cars though. Laws don't change the behavior of people, they just give the government recourse when a law is broken.
One thing that is almost always overlooked in these tragic events, like Sandy Hook... Aurora CO.... Gabby Giffords... Wedgwood Baptist Church... etc, is the role that mental illness plays and complete lack of resources available for the mentally ill in this country.
People in Europe tend to forget that one. Across the USA there are quite a lot or rural areas where there are large predators that are more than happy to try to make a meal of you.
(I am sure I remember reading somewhere that large calibre and very powerful handguns such as Magnums were actually developed for the hiking market to deter Bears and other large predators and for woodland hunting rather than for use as a weapon against other people )
The other factor which tends to be glossed over is the use of the statistics. claiming that the USA is a generally dangerous country because 12,000 people/year are Murdered by gunfire each year is misleading.
The Majority of these murders (both in terms of the perpetrator and the victim) involve a small and clearly identifiable subset of the US population and take place in highly specific and clearly identifiable geographic areas.
Provided one avoids these obvious high risk areas, you chances of being Murdered, either by Gunshot, or any other means for that matter, is actually not much greater than in western Europe. Which is actually quite surprising when one is talking about a country where Guns are likley more common than I-phones.
The experience of the majority of the US population is that it is not actually a particularly dangerous country to live in. despite the ready availability of personal firearms.
Advice Needed = I can't function in real life and require the thoughts of others for the blindingly obvious
Shush you
True. The Smith & Wesson .50 handgun is the preferred choice for hikers in Alaska. I know, I lived in Alaska. It's powerful enough to kill a bear. But the saying is "4 shots for the bear, if that doesn't work the last one is for you"
I wasn't going to mention this, but since you brought it up.... most of the statistics on gun violence in the US are flat out lies. They are skewed, intentionally by anti-gun groups.
For instance, the largest single cause of death by gun in America is suicide. While that is technically 'gun violence' it is not directed at others but is still included in the statistical reports and skews the numbers to the point they are meaningless.
On top of that you now have to look at domestic violence, as was the case in this thread. Don't take this to mean I'm excusing that behavior, I'm not in any way.
Once you take those numbers out, you find that random, stranger on stranger gun violence is incredibly rare in the US. And this is a country with more guns than people.
I've spent most of my life traveling the world. My father was military, I was military and I worked for years as an onboard systems manager for NCL.
The US, imo, is as safe as any country and safer than many.