Poll: Feminism and relationships

What should Ayahuasca do?

  • Stop bringing it up

    Votes: 35 12.4%

  • Continue arguing my opinion whenever it comes up

    Votes: 36 12.7%

  • Get out before things get hairy

    Votes: 143 50.5%

  • Pancake

    Votes: 69 24.4%
  • Total voters
    283
Dis86 said:
Why? Surely online we have access to more and more people compared to what one could encounter in the average day? Particularly on feminist forums and the likes?
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A feminist forum would link to this post (or half the posts in GD) and say men are mysoginists trying to keep women down.

This forum could link to half the posts on a feminist forum and make them out to be mad shrews who hate men.

Neither is right, because neither accurately represents a varied cross-section of society.
 
harry5522 said:
They scare me :(

But seriously one thing that does bother me is that crime is not treated equally for example a female teacher sleeps with a 13 year old student on a regular basis gets caught sentenced to 200 hours community service. Male teacher does the exact same thing gets ordered to sign a sex offenders list branded as a peadofile and given 5-10years in prison when he will be molested himself.

Surely they should both have their life's taken away and ruined equally.
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Source?
 
It depends on if she takes genuine offence and is actually getting wound up or if it's a bit of a give and take.

Me and my misses are vastly different in our political views and take pride in winding each other up, but we don't take each other too seriously.
 
VincentHanna said:
A feminist forum would link to this post (or half the posts in GD) and say men are mysoginists trying to keep women down.

This forum could link to half the posts on a feminist forum and make them out to be mad shrews who hate men.

Neither is right, because neither accurately represents a varied cross-section of society.
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How does this forum not represent a varied cross section of society?
Or are you accusing us of being overly mysoginistic?
 
Ayahuasca said:
So I've landed myself in a relationship with someone who I've only recently found out claims to be a feminist although I can't see what she does actively to support this, however the issue is when having debates about the issues, most of the time I can shut her points down or at least explain why they aren't as clear cut as she thinks, wage gap for example.

It's gotten to the point where it just winds her up and she'll go in a one over it.

So should I:

1. Stop bringing it up
2. Continuing arguing my opinion whenever it comes up
3. Get out before the real crazy
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Being better at arguing your point than her doesn't mean that she doesn't have a point. Surely, you've been is situations where you've been unable to fully articulate your point of view as well?

Should you be shutting down all her points or should you be attempting to see from her point of view? I think this is more of a question about your relationship as opposed to what the facts are about what you think feminism is as a whole.

And besides, you can only refute so much before it becomes opinion on both sides.

For what it's worth, I'm a guy. Also, a feminist for the most part. I find that extreme views are much much easier to find online than the more rational ones and the minority of crazy people have the habit of talking louder than the more sensible ones... This is a shame, but it's the same regardless of the issue, sexism/ racism/ religion IMHO.

EDIT: Oh and the answer is 4. Don't think just because you're in a relationship means you have to impose your opinion on her. Because you don't and you shouldn't. But, and perhaps more importantly, you don't have to agree on everything to be happy.
 
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Dis86 said:
How does this forum not represent a varied cross section of society?
Or are you accusing us of being overly mysoginistic?
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Because it's a forum for a shop selling PC components, which tends to be more of a male hobby (using metrics)

What is the ratio of male/female members on this forum?

I would guess most members here are males 18-50.

A moderator would have to confirm the stats.
 
TheBDog said:
Being better at arguing your point than her doesn't mean that she doesn't have a point. Surely, you've been is situations where you've been unable to fully articulate your point of view as well?

Should you be shutting down all her points or should you be attempting to see from her point of view? I think this is more of a question about your relationship as opposed to what the facts are about what you think feminism is as a whole.

And besides, you can only refute so much before it becomes opinion on both sides.

For what it's worth, I'm a guy. Also, a feminist for the most part. I find that extreme views are much much easier to find online than the more rational ones and the minority of crazy people have the habit of talking louder than the more sensible ones... This is a shame, but it's the same regardless of the issue, sexism/ racism/ religion IMHO.

EDIT: Oh and the answer is 4. Don't think just because you're in a relationship means you have to impose your opinion on her. Because you don't and you shouldn't. But, and perhaps more importantly, you don't have to agree on everything to be happy.
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Good post :)
 
VincentHanna said:
Because it's a forum for a shop selling PC components, which tends to be more of a male hobby (using metrics)

What is the ratio of male/female members on this forum?

I would guess most members here are males 18-50.

A moderator would have to confirm the stats.
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bit sexist to suggest wimmin don't have nerd hobbies as much.

how unprogressive

/s
 
VincentHanna said:
Because it's a forum for a shop selling PC components, which tends to be more of a male hobby (using metrics)

What is the ratio of male/female members on this forum?

I would guess most members here are males 18-50.

A moderator would have to confirm the stats.
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So...You're saying because there are more males here our opinions are not equally valid?
You're making a lot of assumptions there based purely on gender stereotypes. Isn't that one of the things feminism is supposed to stand against ergo you've just proved my point that you, as a self proclaimed feminist have moved away from the true meaning of the word.
 
Well you are wrong about the wage gap. It's not huge in developed countries, particularly for those under 35, but it's real.
What other issues related to feminism have caused arguments?
 
Dis86 said:
So...You're saying because there are more males here our opinions are not equally valid?
You're making a lot of assumptions there based purely on gender stereotypes. Isn't that one of the things feminism is supposed to stand against ergo you've just proved my point that you, as a self proclaimed feminist have moved away from the true meaning of the word.
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Strawman again, never said that.

I said the forum does not accurately represent a varied cross-section of society.

I said the same of a Feminist forum.

You can't read posts on there and assume every person who identifies as a feminist has the same views.
 
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