Russell Square stabbings: Man arrested on suspicion of murder

whats the betting his identity isn't mentioned at all and this is all swept under the rug with the aid of saying he's mentally ill
 
Or perhaps it was just a MH issue? That's much more likely than Islamic extreamism, despite what the Daily Mail would have you believe.

Why can't it be both? My opinion* is that most of these jihadis are mentally ill in the first place. When MP Jo Cox was tragically killed earlier in the year, both terrorism and mental illness were discussed, why in this incident is everyone so keen to play down the terrorism element?

I'm not a psychiatrist so my opinion is irrelevant, but since that isn't stopping the Met it's not going to stop me.
 
Why are people alluding to it being terrorism, but claiming it's all being swept under the carpet by the media?

You can bet your bottom dollar that the media are working at 500mph trying as hard as they can to pin it on terrorism, because that's what's making them money - why the hell would they want to not report it?

Bearing in mind, where terrorism DOES occur, it's pumped into your eyeballs through any available media for 4 weeks straight.
 
Surely there are forensic psychologists in the Met, or maybe the guy was a known sufferer of mental illness>
Given they only tasered the person, maybe they have already spoken to him and deduced that he like to fill the dish washer with the blades pointing up?
 
I thought that terrorism was politically, or ideologically motivated - like the 9/11 attacks, it took years of planning, lots of money and organisation to carry out - the motive was that their political and ideological ideas were different than that of the west, not mental illness?

Unless you class anybody who performs a serious crime (mass murder) as being mentally ill in some form or another, which I think is a slippery slope.

Yes I would class everyone who orchestrates mass murder, with terrorism (idealogical or otherwise) and the killing of innocents as a goal, as suffering from some form of mental illness. Without any reservation.
 
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Bearing in mind, where terrorism DOES occur, it's pumped into your eyeballs through any available media for 4 weeks straight.
So true, is blown all out of proportion and we've had threads, saying things like worst attack attack ever and this is the end and similar stuff.
yet, we actually live in a time that is well down on terrorist attacks.
a bit of perspective is needed for some people in these threads.

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anyway rip to the victim and hope the others have a speedy recovery.
 
Yes I would class everyone who orchestrates mass murder, with terrorism (idealogical or otherwise) and the killing of innocents as a goal, as suffering from mental illness. Without any reservation.

I understand what you're saying - and I agree with the way you're saying it, but something about it doesn't seem to add up - I can't explain why, and it's winding me up lol :)
 
Yes I would class everyone who orchestrates mass murder, with terrorism (idealogical or otherwise) and the killing of innocents as a goal, as suffering from some form of mental illness. Without any reservation.

Hmmn, that is too easy.

There are plenty of examples of mass killings of "Innocents" that were planned and exercised by entirely rational people for entirely logical reasons.#

(There are both older and more recent examples, but for now, I will offer the example of the Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Breivics attempt to destroy the Norwegian Labour Party)

(# Note, Just because I understand the logic doesn't necessarily mean I am endorsing the actions. Just that the reasoning behind them was entirely logical and I understand the reasons why the action was taken)
 
Some people seem a bit upset that the 'M word' can still be mentioned on the forum.

Unless we see a sudden spate of attacks, like France and Germany, I wouldn't be too concerned, and a mental health issue is a perfectly valid assumption.
 
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There is a subtle change in the Met's latest statement where it says "we focus... on mental health while retaining an open mind".

Earlier statements included the line "terrorism remains one line of the inquiry being explored" but that has now been removed.

Daily fail reporting that the guy was lunging and slashing at random people...how true that is I guess we'll see...but it does sound like a random attack rather than a planned endeavour.
 
Hmmn, that is too easy.

There are plenty of examples of mass killings of "Innocents" that were planned and exercised by entirely rational people for entirely logical reasons.#

Some of the most insane people are outwardly the most rational, with a cast-iron conviction in what they are doing. Most probably have no idea they have mental issues, as with many sociopaths and psychopaths.

(There are both older and more recent examples, but for now, I will offer the example of the Atomic Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Breivics attempt to destroy the Norwegian Labour Party)

That was a very tough decision taken during a world war with the aim of making an entire government/country surrender before countless more lives were lost, it was not terrorism. There IS a difference, however subtle the distinction may be and also taking into account depending on the angle you approach it from.
 
There are a lot of people turning to murder as a consequence of their 'mental health issues' in Europe at the moment.

No there isn't. People with mental health issues have always ended up murdering people in some proportion. This isn't new. People get sectioned all the time after having tried to attack someone.

What's new is the way it is framed by the media and popular opinion as something greater than it is.
 
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