Black Lives Matter protest in London and Nottingham

Let me explain my position to you.

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There. Now that you know what I see on a daily basis, I can honestly, hand on heart, say that the opportunities are there for everyone. I see black, indian, muslim, male, female, every shape, colour, sex, you name it, in all levels of employment. These people have worked hard to get there.

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And that right there is why this whole thing irritates me. This is simply the easy way out.

This. I work for a reasonably large multinational company and when it comes to promotions there seems to be no relation to anyones colour/race/religion/etc and whether they get promoted ... it's more down to whether they are a ****womble or not ... (unfortunately it's not down to whether they can actually do the job though ...).

They did a bit about this on C4 news, and these people are frankly protestors without a cause.

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In the states there are real issues, but this protest wasn't needed here. And served only to highlight the stupidity of some of the protesters.

Fortunately I was working from home today otherwise I would have been affected by the Nottingham "protest". Frankly we seem to have a large problem in this country at times with people taking offence for things on the behalf of other people (who themselves aren't necessarily actually offended themselves). If I had been going into the office this morning my opinion would have probably been to just let the tram run ... the protestors would probably learn the stupidity of doing what they did quickly enough ... at the least the survivors might.
 
would have been funny if these protesters all had gone out to these inner city black urban areas for thier protests.

you know go meet the people they;re campaigning for :p
 
This. I work for a reasonably large multinational company and when it comes to promotions there seems to be no relation to anyones colour/race/religion/etc and whether they get promoted ... it's more down to whether they are a ****womble or not ... (unfortunately it's not down to whether they can actually do the job though ...).

unfortunately in the US race does play a part in getting people a leg up...

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I guess if you do get an Asian doctor over there you'll know that he or she really had to work their ass off to get into med school

for context a UK 2:1 is roughly equivalent to a GPA of 3.33 - 3.67 apparently...

so even if you had a complete dos at undergrad and missed the 2:1, then as long as you're 'black' you're still slightly more likely than not to get into med school

what would also be interesting (and potentially more worrying) is to see what % of accepted students fall within each band and what % of each racial group falls within them
 
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unfortunately in the US race does play a part in getting people a leg up...

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I guess if you do get an Asian doctor over there you'll know that he or she really had to work their ass off to get into med school

for context a UK 2:1 is roughly equivalent to a GPA of 3.33 - 3.67 apparently...

so even if you had a complete dos at undergrad and missed the 2:1, then as long as you're 'black' you're still slightly more likely than not to get into med school

what would also be interesting (and potentially more worrying) is to see what % of accepted students fall within each band and what % of each racial group falls within them

You can almost see an indication of that on the two right-hand columns; I'm guessing that the GPA 3.2-3.39 column, for example, has relatively few accepted candidates. As the main categories are summed to 100% it's a little misleading, as if we take the average GPA as being the mean value of a Gaussian spread, then it's clear that there are more black candidates in the bottom groups as they are closer to the mean (and therefore more populous as categories) than the White/Asian groups, who have a higher GPA. I guess what would be interesting would be to have the raw numbers in each group; I'm presuming that the 56.4% of black med students is still a smaller absolute number than the same percentage of total white/asian students.

White/Asian GPA of 3.7 shows that you really have to be at the top end to be able to apply to med school in the US. I'm always surprised that Asians don't complain more, as affirmative action seems to hit them the hardest.
 
Judging by the thinly veiled racist comments here the movement is definitely needed. I noticed the usual 'they must all be on the benefit scroungers', 'losers', 'police should get in forcefully'. It was not that long ago that the Met apologised for being institutionally racist. Changing that will not happen overnight and they will not be the only police force or institution. We have a long way to go before colour does not matter and groups like this need to keep on reminding us of the steps we have to take.
 
unfortunately in the US race does play a part in getting people a leg up...

medschool.jpg


I guess if you do get an Asian doctor over there you'll know that he or she really had to work their ass off to get into med school

for context a UK 2:1 is roughly equivalent to a GPA of 3.33 - 3.67 apparently...

so even if you had a complete dos at undergrad and missed the 2:1, then as long as you're 'black' you're still slightly more likely than not to get into med school

what would also be interesting (and potentially more worrying) is to see what % of accepted students fall within each band and what % of each racial group falls within them

Wow just wow....lowest MCAT and GPA (On average) yet 80% acceptance lmao?

This supposed to be equality or something? Reminds me of the government giving free money to girls if they do engineering to "encourage" them.

What about guys who apply? do they get free money? that's not equality that is discrimination. Plain and simple.
 
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Judging by the thinly veiled racist comments here the movement is definitely needed. I noticed the usual 'they must all be on the benefit scroungers', 'losers', 'police should get in forcefully'. It was not that long ago that the Met apologised for being institutionally racist. Changing that will not happen overnight and they will not be the only police force or institution. We have a long way to go before colour does not matter and groups like this need to keep on reminding us of the steps we have to take.

The fact that these "Protests" are openly aimed to mark the anniversary of the death of a violent thug criminal tells us everything about the protesters that we really need to know!
 
The fact that these "Protests" are openly aimed to mark the anniversary of the death of a violent thug criminal tells us everything about the protesters that we really need to know!
This. It's clearly unfortunate the guy died, but at the end of the day he was a gun running wannabe gangster. If you play with fire, you might get burnt. His death didnt warrant the riots at the time and it certainly doesn't warrant any kind of anniversary. Linking BLM (a dubious movement for the UK, at best) with that man is a total mistake.
 
The fact that these "Protests" are openly aimed to mark the anniversary of the death of a violent thug criminal tells us everything about the protesters that we really need to know!

The fact that some posters try to dismiss these things as irrelevant or criminal tells us all everything about the posters.
 
The fact that some posters try to dismiss these things as irrelevant or criminal tells us all everything about the posters.

I realise that it's pretty hard to see the view from up on your high horse, but protesting on the anniversary of the death of a criminal shot by a police marksman due to having a weapon pointed at him and the day after a widely-disseminated stabbing by a black teenager in Russell Square makes it quite hard to take the protests seriously. I realise school's out for the summer holidays, but I don't think I would feel any sympathy for the movement if I were to be held up at Heathrow by a very small group of self-important individuals.
 
I get what GreyFox is saying. They're standing up for their belief and willing to do something practical about it. Most people would be willing to do as little as possible (Facebook profile pictures et al).

Perhaps not exactly the best method mind...
 
You can almost see an indication of that on the two right-hand columns; I'm guessing that the GPA 3.2-3.39 column, for example, has relatively few accepted candidates. As the main categories are summed to 100% it's a little misleading,

I'm not quite sure what you're referring to there? There doesn't seem to be any indication of the relative numbers of people falling into each bracket vs the other brackets.
 
At least they're getting off their bums and not just changing their profile pictures on Facebook like white people would do.

That doesn't make much sense, plenty of white people join protests (pointless or otherwise) and you'll see there were white people at the BLM protests too.

They've jumped on the band wagon of a movement started in the US and which doesn't have much relevance here.
 
Aren't you being racist...? ;)

well technically yes, generalising about people based on 'race' is often dubious

I mean conversely if someone said - 'typical black people, they can't protest normally they just have to be disruptive and then the police get involved'

then it probably would be a bit dodgy (and also as incorrect as the other comment about white people)
 
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