I am not trolling I am genuinely asking why you refused to vacate a seat and instigated a confrontation when you could have aimed to address the situation in a more amicable manner. I am not justifying making an 8 month pregnant woman stand - I am not justifying the flat refusal to vacate a seat which was reserved by someone. If it is as you said you should have had the presence of mind to sort something out when boarding the train.
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I am not trolling I am genuinely asking why you refused to vacate a seat and instigated a confrontation when you could have aimed to address the situation in a more amicable manner. I am not justifying making an 8 month pregnant woman stand - I am not justifying the flat refusal to vacate a seat which was reserved by someone. If it is as you said you should have had the presence of mind to sort something out when boarding the train.
This is a sad state of politics.
It's always a sad state in UK politics. That's the irony. Every election the majority doesn't win it because we have several other parties that steal away some of those votes. I've never seen a party get elected with 51% and I was born in the 70s. So you end up with a majority of disgruntled voters whose party's were not elected. Still though I do think it's better than the US 2 party system.
Well if you don't like it there is always that amazing ability or button called: Ignore. Use it
I vacated my seat but would not be prepared to have my heavily pregnant gf stand on a train. Evidently you would despite your assertions. Again you are failing to read where I said they became rude and unpleasant, that gets you nowhere with me. That passenger who was much like yourself - morally bankrupt - in kicking up a fuss and citing laws and police being called etc for occupying a reserved seat should have understood courtesy of saying after I informed them my partners heavily pregnant is she ok sitting there, the correct response is "yea sure no problem pal". But turn turn around and say words to the effect of "I don't care I've reserved it and paid for it out"
.. Well doing yourself no favours.
As it so happens a gentleman opposite my partner also chipped in backing me up. Had a few huffs and puffs and that was it.
Again you may tolerate a lot more than me, but when right is right is right... That's how it is.
For doing the right thing? My my my...
If you gave up your seat why does she need to stand and why do you need the seat that the guy reserved?
Many people, including me, feel you did the wrong thing.
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I would have probably done the level headed thing and convinced less stubborn characters with reserved seats, to give one up and even offering to pay the difference. Well, more so than ordering the missus to sit down and stress her out, while flashing my fists and taking pride in being a male, as well as possibly involving myself and heavily pregnant wife in a potential confrontation.
Given your attitude, on here, i would imagine the guy did not appreciate your tone. Had your wife requested i am sure your manliness would never had been tested. lol
I mean really, being prepared to fight another guy off for a seat is a bit much. I think you should have more concern for your wife than whatever you think the right thing was at the time. Provoking a stranger and being willing to take it to a punch-up is far more dangerous than just asking someone else.
Given your attitude, on here, i would imagine the guy did not appreciate your tone. Had your wife requested i am sure your manliness would never had been tested. lol
I mean really, being prepared to fight another guy off for a seat is a bit much. I think you should have more concern for your wife than whatever you think the right thing was at the time. Provoking a stranger and being willing to take it to a punch-up is far more dangerous than just asking someone else.
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This sounds reasonable. Any particular reason why it didn't happen? Take care your wife for sure, but don't steal a reserved guys seat, just do a Jeremy Corbin and sit on the floor.
There were a group of 4 seats. 2 people were in 2, me and gf were in the other two. When two other passengers came up saying these are our seats (me by the aisle) stood and said basically my girlfriends 8months is she ok sitting there (I stood and stayed standing all the way to Edinburgh). They said no, we paid for em out. I got my back up at the moral bankruptcy of this person and told my gf to stay where she was. They huffed and puffed I said to them she's not moving because she's 8months pregnant. One of the two sat and me and the other passenger stood.
I'm not going keep justifying myself for an action that is correct, and to people saying she should have given up her seat or any heavily/clearly pregnant woman on a train, its a good job I'm not on the same train as you.
This sounds reasonable. Any particular reason why it didn't happen? Take care your wife for sure, but don't steal a reserve guys seat, Just do a Jeremy Corbin and sit on the floor.
I did give up my seat........... I would not allow my partner to stand... Jesus...wept.... This place is getting so pedantic lately, should rename it Cornationclockers
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Good for your wife too, sounds like your a risk to everyone around you. You should think of her safety as well as her comfort.
Well if you toned down the venom in many of your posts and were more reasonable on public transport, maybe not as many of us would be discussing this with you.
Well if you toned down the venom in many of your posts and were more reasonable on public transport, maybe not as many of us would be discussing this with you.
Reasonable on public transport? Do you realise the hypocrisy of your post?
So its not reasonable to expect an 8month pregnant woman to sit.
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It is not reasonable to want to escalate that situation when you have an 8 month pregnant woman next to you. What was wrong with asking someone else, who you would be more likely to get a yes from?
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So ask someone for a seat, don't demand it. Simple courtesy.
Aren't there priority seats for pregnant and disabled people on most trains? A much better response would have been to seek out a seat marked for this very purpose and ask the occupant to vacate it (assuming not every priority seat on the train was occupied by a pregnant woman, elderly or disabled person of course).
I've already agreed with you about you're wife earlier, I said take care of her first. Short memory much?
What everyone but you seems to agree on is that your behaviour toward the innocent guy who just wanted the seat HE paid for and RESERVED. You ended up standing anyway so what's the difference?