Broken Car advice

Despite your request, I'm moving the thread to motors because you'll get better advice :)
 
Lol oh deary me... Just realised this is another Trixibug thread. You should get advice before buying cars, and listen to it. You're worse than I am... :p

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  • Wiring to radiator fan cut/disconnected
  • Faulty engine thermostat
  • Leaking coolant pipes

So basically all the same issue then?

  • Side light out - fixed
  • Disconnected horn
  • Engine warning light for Lamba sensor - fixed but still a warning light

The Side light and disconnected horn, not big issues and dealer would likely have no issue with fixing them. The engine warning light is a danger at this end of the market - but it's not the dealers' fault. He buys cars from auctions or accepts part-ex's from people who potentially want rid of dodgy cars (e.g. previous owner could have cleared fault code before trading in)

  • Drivers side speaker w/no output then no sterio at all
  • Interior light not working
  • Aerial broken - fixed

All Wear/Tear that you should expect at this price range - A dealer doesn't have to fix these?

  • Wing mirrors changing back to stock - fixed

Assuming these were M3 style mirrors or something similar, then the dealer didn't have to "fix" these either, unless you agreed it with him prior to the sale. The Onus would be on you to spot these in the same way as dents or scratches.



Edit: there is a much MUCH bigger story to all this but I didnt want to go too much into it and boil every ones heads :p

We were considering Trading Standards - there has been a lot more going on with this car than the above, I just wanted to keep the OP short

It might be worth posting the "bigger story", as we may be able to offer better advice.


Second hand ones don't, they just need to be "as described"
SOGA doesn't cover wear and tear either.

Unless the dealer described the problems as part of the sale, then they need to be sorted under SOGA.

It's not SOGA these days - it's the Consumer Rights Act.

More info here:
http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rig...car-i-bought-has-a-problem-what-are-my-rights

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/buying-or-repairing-a-car/problems-with-a-used-car/
 
Second hand ones don't, they just need to be "as described"
SOGA doesn't cover wear and tear either.
It's a lot different if you take a finance agreement though.

A dealer needs the car to be suitable for the road - ie, it'll pass an MOT. The horn not working is a fail ... Or am I totally wrong here?!
 
A dealer needs the car to be suitable for the road - ie, it'll pass an MOT. The horn not working is a fail ... Or am I totally wrong here?!

Depends whether the Dealer has sold it with a new full MOT or not.

If not then the Dealer will argue that he didn't know that the horn didn't work, but should have no problem in fixing it.
 
Depends whether the Dealer has sold it with a new full MOT or not.

If not then the Dealer will argue that he didn't know that the horn didn't work, but should have no problem in fixing it.

Fair enough, I guess proving it was broken at the point of sale is pretty difficult to do regardless! :)
 
Fair enough, I guess proving [insert non essential car part here] was broken at the point of sale is pretty difficult to do regardless! :)

Pretty much why there are companies making money offering cheap third party warranties on behalf of dealers and giving people the run around.

Looking for second hand cars was the worst experience for me until i started to look privately.
 
Pretty much why there are companies making money offering cheap third party warranties on behalf of dealers and giving people the run around.

But you don't have to deal with them. You can completely reject a car within 30 days for a full refund, but even after that you have a reasonable right to have faults repaired, or a partial refund.


Looking for second hand cars was the worst experience for me until i started to look privately.

I'd like to know how that works out any better - particularly with £4-5k cars?

Having recently bought a car (which transpired to have an EML related problem) from a small dealer, I am glad I did. I was able to reject the car with no issue as they weren't able to fix it after several attempts. Had I bought privately I would have been out of pocket, as there is virtually no comeback with a private sale.
 
As your attorny I recommend the following.

65,000 is hardly run in. The car should be fine, old cars are ok. This motor is dangerous and has already overheated in the past.

Who motd it? The same garage?

I suggest writing down everything now, keep notes, write a letter to the garage stating that it isn't fit for purpose and return it, get a receipt signed to say you have returned it and left the keys and ask for a full refund within 7 days. Take photos of it first.

Don't agree to any money off for usage.

Give the garage imbecile the time first thing one morning and date you will attend to collect the money and show up that morning and sit and dont leave until you have it. Go with several large family/friends and don't leave until you get the full £850.

Don't even accept 845

It must have been terrifying stuck on the motorway for that long. Next time take a mechanic Pro, look for service history and an independent mot. And give that boyfriend a wedgie. ��
 
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Yep! Well, maybe... I mean, I like to think I have enough sense to not buy a Ford Ka in the first place. Let alone pay about four times too much for one. :D

Also your gif game is weak, find better ones. ;)
 
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Yep! Well, maybe... I mean, I like to think I have enough sense to not buy a Ford Ka in the first place. Let alone pay about four times too much for one. :D

Also your gif game is weak, find better ones. ;)

Nah not a KA, you'd not be that daft....

A CAT D shed repaired by a plasterer that you've never seen before and paid up front without viewing, different story that ;)
 
write a letter to the garage stating that it isn't fit for purpose

Really?

It's a car - its fit for the purpose of carrying people around when in full working order. The fact it isn't in full working order surely falls instead under 'Not of merchantable quality' as fit for purpose is not, as far as I know, about faults, its about selling somebody the wrong product that isn't suitable for the intended purpose.
 
Okay, so your a real solicitor Fox. You are saying return car and keys - with letter saying it it 'is not of merchantable quality', return 1 week later with large mates and don't leave without £850.

Happy?
:p
 
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