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Yeah, the burkini doesn't have a veil.
What are people's thoughts on the burkini ban in France?
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Given the state of some folks on the beach I'm surprised that they don't give them out for free.
Im all for this!!!!!!
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Meh truth is if I just speak honestly i'm fed up with Islam.
Tired of the crapp caused in the name of it.
Ban it and be done with it. If christians were doing the same thing ban that too.
But right now Islam is clearly the worst and has a lot of backward ideas in it still which are very much alive today.
There was a good documentary following muslims who left islam and they all said similar things, oppresive, guilt tripped into following, family disowned them, shamed for leaving yada yada.... it's toxic.
Tired of the crapp caused in the name of it.
Ban it and be done with it. If christians were doing the same thing ban that too.
But right now Islam is clearly the worst and has a lot of backward ideas in it still which are very much alive today.
There was a good documentary following muslims who left islam and they all said similar things, oppresive, guilt tripped into following, family disowned them, shamed for leaving yada yada.... it's toxic.
That's very hard to put a definition on. Do football shirts count as a symbol of division? What about obvious displays of wealth?
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Public schools. Religious schools are private but are not banned in France; nor are you forbidden from wearing the cross or the Kippah in public. Le Pen moans about it regularly (and selectively, I may add).
The bold part is also a very good point.
Because full body wet suites are used for an activity. Also they are very hot to wear and also restrict movement.
Burkini is a light fabric covering the skin. Which can be worn anywhere with no restriction to movement.
Poor comparison
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I don't think that any sort of face covering in public should be allowed. So that's headscarves, balaclavas, or Ugly Bob
In private though or in a place of worship, do what you want. Don't bring religion to work though or to the public. Religion shouldn't be a protected characteristic imo.
As for burkinis, why don't they just wear a wetsuit lol
In private though or in a place of worship, do what you want. Don't bring religion to work though or to the public. Religion shouldn't be a protected characteristic imo.
As for burkinis, why don't they just wear a wetsuit lol
It's a tough one for me,
The main argument for it in my eyes is to start to break down the rampant sexism that is engrained within the religion. Trying to promote the change that the religion needs to see, the religion itself is designed to resist any and all changes. So you have an impass.
So it's being argued that restricting something in law is not ok, but if a society and a belief system can bully it's way into widespread acceptance its 'a'ok. But as long as it's not legally forcing people not to it's ok?
The main argument for it in my eyes is to start to break down the rampant sexism that is engrained within the religion. Trying to promote the change that the religion needs to see, the religion itself is designed to resist any and all changes. So you have an impass.
So it's being argued that restricting something in law is not ok, but if a society and a belief system can bully it's way into widespread acceptance its 'a'ok. But as long as it's not legally forcing people not to it's ok?
And you can still wear a headscarf, nor are you stopped from going to the beach or in the water fully dressed, though a lifeguard might have a chat to make sure you know the risks.
I'll quote what i posted above:
pretty illiberal to tell people what they can and can't wear - while I'd support the right of businesses to bad full face coverings (whether than be veils or balaclavas and motor cycle helmets) I don't support regulating what people can and can't wear on a public beach... frankly you should be allowed to wear as much or as little clothing as you please
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dude my comparison was moronic because the argument is moronic... lmao
So Muslim countries are free to impose clothing regulations ;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/dress-code-guide-for-muslim-countries/
Yet when a Western country does the same, the Muslims oppose.
More double standards from the religion you will never please.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/dress-code-guide-for-muslim-countries/
Yet when a Western country does the same, the Muslims oppose.
More double standards from the religion you will never please.
I love when the argument that it's a religious garment seems somehow to validate it, even though it isn't, its simply "tradition dress-ware", though technically a Burqini is a modern interpretation.
And before someone says it, if the only interpretation one requires to call something religious dressware, then perhaps one day when the almighty class-6 body plated, colt 1911 armed god of Preppers comes along we can be tolerant of that too.
Regardless, a burqini is at least not as oppressive as a full Burqa.
And before someone says it, if the only interpretation one requires to call something religious dressware, then perhaps one day when the almighty class-6 body plated, colt 1911 armed god of Preppers comes along we can be tolerant of that too.
Regardless, a burqini is at least not as oppressive as a full Burqa.
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Thing is we are branded racists and bigots for having the above opinion, even when it is a fact.
I hope we never become like Iran.
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