Yes banning it would.
But thats very different from saying those who would happily support banning things associated with islam are out of touch.
Its quite a common and widley held opinion these days.
What are people's thoughts on the burkini ban in France?
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Yes banning it would.
But thats very different from saying those who would happily support banning things associated with islam are out of touch.
Its quite a common and widley held opinion these days.
Only on these forums and amongst specific circles. I don't see a swathe of such opinions expressed on twitter, facebook etc.
French banned buhkas and the swiss banned minnerets iirc.
Your self selected facebook and twitter feiends are not really representative
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because the PC brigade is all over it - you risk losing your job if you write about this on facebook.
Heck this whole thread is about something being banned for being vaugley related to islam.
And the ban seems to have very wide popular appeal to the point the candidates for president are using it as an election point.
To say its an out of touch opinion seems well out of touch
And the ban seems to have very wide popular appeal to the point the candidates for president are using it as an election point.
To say its an out of touch opinion seems well out of touch
A phobia is an irrational fear.
A fear of an extremely powerful, extremely power-hungry and extremely oppressive micro-managing ideology that's dominated by tyranny and extreme violence and brutality is not an irrational fear.
Deliberately pretending one is the other is a very good way of silencing dissent, though. It's a useful tool in the armory of conquest.
But Islam demands the right of way, and anything different is just diverted off the road.
Keep your religions if it gives you comfort, but take into account that a lot of people don't give a **** about your faith whichever it is.
Burkha's and Minarets were banned under rationalisations which are still far from banning Islam.
The UK is also very different to countries like Switzerland. It is more like the USA where such an idea is preposterous to the majority of people.
First of all, a religion can't demand anything. It is people that demand things.
How many Muslims do you see asking for the supremacy of Islam above all else? There are a few million Muslims in the UK.
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About half of them.
The followers of said religion.
Don't be blinkered, ISIS/ISIL whatever you deem to describe them as, only agenda is exactly that.
Whilst that doesn't encompass all Muslims, you asked for examples of Muslims beleiving in the supremacy of Islam over all other religions.
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Top sentence is a bigger load of don't swearthan the second sentence loaded with don't swear
What bearing does ISIL members in Syria have, with actions you would propose to take upon British Muslims?
We were talking about integration in the UK in these posts.
Top sentence is a bigger load of than the second sentence loaded with
Cool. So it doesn't matter what British Muslims want or do. Their actions don't matter by your statement.
It is all about your interpretation of the religion. Unsurprisingly you will pick the extreme versions to peddle your agenda.
I'll restate it. People demand things, not a religion. So in this case it is a question of asking what do British Muslims want. Are they being unreasonable?
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And so do many millions more.
We talking about the country we live in and what laws we should have here, or a country thousands of miles away where our laws have no relevance?
You think banning Islam in the UK will make the middle east a better place?
It will just make the UK a terrible place to live with fascist laws.
What actions did i propose i take on British muslims specifically ?
I supported the right of a country ( France or the UK ) to impose clothing restrictions ( the same as Muslim countries do ).
You were, the thread was about religous wet suits and the banning or not of them in France.
I don't think i have said ban Islam, that for this moment in time won't happen, i will be long dead before banning religions comes to the world.
Large portions of Muslims in the UK support Sharia law, anyone calling for a separate law to suit their religion over any UK law should never even get to discussion stages.
Also what goes on in a Muslim country in the ME will affect a lot of Muslims who live in the UK, so it does have a relevance.
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No one is saying clothing can't be banned.
This thread is about banning something in particular relating to a specific religion. Where the rationale is about explicitly removing an indication of this religion from our beaches. This affects British Muslims (and French) if you didn't realise.
The reasons for doing so have covered various things throughout this thread. From the protection of women to attacking the religion itself because it is supposedly bad.
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