Christmas Day Pay

No. Most places I've worked in the past were closed on Christmas day but in my current place it's a fixed £30ph. Christmas day and NY day are the only fixed days off we get. Bank Holidays etc are standard days and get added to our overall holidays. If your day to work falls on either day you get the following working day off as well and don't come in on those days. It's been £30ph for about ten years though and we keep hoping it'll be increased but never is.
 
regulus said:
Yes.

Was working for a large UK civil contractor about 8-10 years ago that offered a 2k 'turning up' bonus and then triple time. Used to walk away with about 3k on Christmas Day. Each year they took away more and more. My last year in the UK before emigrating to NZ they offered 1.5x only. No bonus. Still had heaps of people volunteer. Including me, who just didn't turn up but still put in a timesheet and got paid.

Can imagine nowadays it'll just be normal salary to work on Christmas for those lot.
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Cant imagine why they started reducing payments.
 
we get time and a half for bank holidays over the silly season if we are due to be in, and as we are open 24/7 someone will be in. but funny how all the management take a good week and a half off over Christmas and new years.

im not bothered this year im taking 3 weeks off and sodding off to japan :D
 
George Hincapie said:
Why would you work on Christmas Day?!
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Why do you assume everyone has a choice?

I work whatever hours I am ordered to work on whatever day I am ordered to work, on a 16 hours a day 7 days a week basis. There are no fixed days off any more, let alone fixed hours. We're given rotas up to 4 weeks in advance, but they are subject to change without notice, e.g. I could be told 5 minutes before leaving one day that I'm working 16 hours the next day despite it being my day off on the rota.

That's how it is for most employees nowadays, especially at the bottom end of the job market.

My employer is not that unreasonable, but they reserve the right to do so at will. We usually end up working split shifts, e.g. 1100-1500 + 1800-2300, so we can easily up up being at work 55-60 hours a week to work (and be paid for) 35-40 of those hours. And we count ourselves lucky to have a job with enough hours to survive on at minimum wage. Some of us even have a contract for enough hours to survive on. Most people working at the bottom of the market don't have that.

Your question indicates you're not at all familiar with how working life is nowdays for most people.
 
Angilion said:
but they are subject to change without notice, e.g. I could be told 5 minutes before leaving one day that I'm working 16 hours the next day despite it being my day off on the rota.
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Thats unacceptable imo,I couldn't work for a company like that,Christ i bet theyre forever changing your rotas at the drop of a hat?

How are you suppose to plan anything outside of work,We work to live NOT live to work. ;)

I hope they pay you bloody well.
 
We get 21 days off over the Christmas period but if anyone is asked to work, they get triple time which is roughly £45 an hour.
 
Angilion said:
My employer is not that unreasonable, but they reserve the right to do so at will. We usually end up working split shifts, e.g. 1100-1500 + 1800-2300, so we can easily up up being at work 55-60 hours a week to work (and be paid for) 35-40 of those hours. And we count ourselves lucky to have a job with enough hours to survive on at minimum wage. Some of us even have a contract for enough hours to survive on. Most people working at the bottom of the market don't have that.
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I'd rather be on the street than work split shifts on anything like a regular basis - unless it was something absolutely crucial.
 
Rroff said:
I'd rather be on the street than work split shifts on anything like a regular basis - unless it was something absolutely crucial.
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If that was your choice, I very much doubt if you really would choose to be on the street.
 
Nevakonaza said:
Thats unacceptable imo,I couldn't work for a company like that,Christ i bet theyre forever changing your rotas at the drop of a hat?
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They usually post rotas for 4 weeks in advance and usually don't change them during that time, but that's only because the person who does the rotas is unusually considerate.

How are you suppose to plan anything outside of work,We work to live NOT live to work. ;)
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The company doesn't give a rat's arse about our lives, so why would they care about us not being able to plan anything outside of work? It's a large company, so the people making decisions are utterly seperated from the poeple working for them. We're just cost units. From their perspective, we don't have lives.

Local management is a very different matter because they see us as people. The same goes for the staff. So if, for example, person A is going to have something delivered next Friday and needs to be at home for it but is off on Monday and Thursday next week, the local management will look at the rota for next week, find person B who isn't working next Friday and ask them if they'll work Friday and have Thursday off instead. We make do as best we can because that's the best we can do.

I hope they pay you bloody well.
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Minumum wage.

The days when people on low wages worked set hours on set days and could rely on that are gone. It's no longer the case that a low-paid job allows both low stress and a reliable, dependable, plannable life outside of work.
 
Nevakonaza said:
Sounds like a wonderful company to work for. :o
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It's better than many. It's how things are at the bottom of the job market in this country today. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years, even just the last 5 years.

When you're out and about, have a look at how many places require low-level staff to stand while working even when the job could be done sitting down, even when the job could be done more efficiently sitting down, even when the job requires using equipment specifically designed to be used while sitting down. This is a common custom and the sole purpose of it is to cause pain and chronic medical problems to serve as a reminder of inferior status. It's been illegal since Victorian times, but nobody cares.
 
Angilion said:
Why do you assume everyone has a choice?

I work whatever hours I am ordered to work on whatever day I am ordered to work, on a 16 hours a day 7 days a week basis. There are no fixed days off any more, let alone fixed hours. We're given rotas up to 4 weeks in advance, but they are subject to change without notice, e.g. I could be told 5 minutes before leaving one day that I'm working 16 hours the next day despite it being my day off on the rota.

That's how it is for most employees nowadays, especially at the bottom end of the job market.

My employer is not that unreasonable, but they reserve the right to do so at will. We usually end up working split shifts, e.g. 1100-1500 + 1800-2300, so we can easily up up being at work 55-60 hours a week to work (and be paid for) 35-40 of those hours. And we count ourselves lucky to have a job with enough hours to survive on at minimum wage. Some of us even have a contract for enough hours to survive on. Most people working at the bottom of the market don't have that.

Your question indicates you're not at all familiar with how working life is nowdays for most people.
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May I ask what you do? Or at least the industry you're in? Don't sound like anything anyone I know are used to.
 
Angilion said:
Why do you assume everyone has a choice?

I work whatever hours I am ordered to work on whatever day I am ordered to work, on a 16 hours a day 7 days a week basis. There are no fixed days off any more, let alone fixed hours. We're given rotas up to 4 weeks in advance, but they are subject to change without notice, e.g. I could be told 5 minutes before leaving one day that I'm working 16 hours the next day despite it being my day off on the rota.

That's how it is for most employees nowadays, especially at the bottom end of the job market.

My employer is not that unreasonable, but they reserve the right to do so at will. We usually end up working split shifts, e.g. 1100-1500 + 1800-2300, so we can easily up up being at work 55-60 hours a week to work (and be paid for) 35-40 of those hours. And we count ourselves lucky to have a job with enough hours to survive on at minimum wage. Some of us even have a contract for enough hours to survive on. Most people working at the bottom of the market don't have that.

Your question indicates you're not at all familiar with how working life is nowdays for most people.
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Flexible working hours and opting out of the 48 hours week :D:D:D Just a taster of what to expect post BrexitApocalypse. Gotta love the UK if you are a company, the minimum wage means nothing when you work around 15 or more hours for free... Your boss does sound unreasonable to me but not different to many others though, having to or choosing to accept it doesnt make him reasonable.
 
If rostered to work, it would be straight double time.

As we work 4 On - 4 Off, we don't get Bank Holidays although we do claim overtime at our flat rate if you're on a rest day.

Just to add...

If I'm asked to work overtime on a Bank Holiday it's tripple time.
 
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