Almost a vegetarian!

[sand_dune]

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Sorry I don't understand your question, neither I want that. You asked to help you understand the way animals benefit from a larger stomach. I helped. Next thing you are questioning my ...

Oh ok, whatever, I'll answer. Yes this is how we get nutrients. Grazing animals keep them long inside, and we cook our food to release them and/or make digestible for our small stomachs.

 

[Mynight]

Godwin strikes yet again.

Are you high/drunk?

Ahh ok. I didn't consider the nutrition aspect my bad.

I was rather confused how having 4 stomachs prevented illness.

 

[sand_dune]

Godwin strikes yet again.

Are you high/drunk?

Ahh ok. I didn't consider the nutrition aspect my bad.

I was rather confused how having 4 stomachs prevented illness.

You're getting confused a bit too much for my liking.

 

[Mynight]

Good glad to help.

 

[sand_dune]

Speaking of Godwin (which you used as a distraction in this discussion, according to Wikipedia) I could not think of another notable human in history of humanity, who'd be ordering living beings into concentration camps, then gassing and burning (frying) them while on the other hand declaring himself a lover of humans (in his favour) or animal alike.

 

[Tefal]

That's not why we cook food though is it?

We dont cook food because of bacteria we cook it because cooked food is easier to digest.

Cows have multiple stomachs as it takes a lot more work to break down grass and they need various bacterial to help (for humans grass would pass through largey undigested, try thid one day, eat 3 big salads ina day lok at your poop the next and youll still see regognizable salad leaf peices).

The "nitrogen" is protien btw, its what your made from.

Meat is absolutley full of that and fats and when cooked is very easily digested (doesnt take much energy) which makes it great for us and our very high energy needs cause of our brains.

Meat is also the best way of reliably getting the 4 (8?) Esential amino acids, your body can convert between all tbe others but the esential ones you can only get from consumption aome plants have some and iirc rice/pea is a complete protien with them all but meat always has them all in the right amounts

 

[Tefal]

hat makes you same as Hitler in my eyes. He never killed anyone too.

Well he probbaly did he was a soilder on the front lines of ww1 and fought at the somme.

 

[Nitefly]

We clearly don't need to eat meat.

 

[Tefal]

We clearly don't need to eat meat.

No, but its tasty and easier than properly managing a vegan vegan diet for most people.

 

[sand_dune]

No, but its tasty and easier than properly managing a vegan vegan diet for most people.

That is for as long as large businesses (as supermarkets) and farms and states are lobbying their meaty things. Because meat can be very profitable. You get it from backward countries where they just destroy woods and let kettle eat the grass. So get that meat for little money and sell it here.

The way to manage diet would be to simply sell some veggie burgers with all the nutrients included, like nuts peas and so on. But look at all the people around you. They have not the slightest education or compassion. They could not care less about such burgers.

 

[dowie]

Don't be ridiculous. Insects don't even have a proper brain to realise they are being hurt. Also when the tree is cut down nobody goes after every insect and tortures them, separating from the family, forcing to live in shocking unhygienic conditions.

but proper vegans don't eat insects either... so making an argument re: lesser animals doesn't make much sense in this context

I mean do vegans eat prawns? Fish eggs? etc..

While every animal being used and abuse is the same as a pet animal, has character, feelings, can be in huge amounts of pain.

Everyone who would be very eager to prevent abuse of a dog or a cat, but eats meat is utterly deplorable hypocrite.

Really? Eating a sardine is the same as cruelty to dogs and cats?

There is nothing hypocritical in eating meat and wanting animals to be looked after.

There is plenty hypocritical in avoiding even animal products (even honey) on ethical grounds but happily eating foods that are produced as the result of large scale deforestation etc..

 

[sand_dune]

but proper vegans don't eat insects either... so making an argument re: lesser animals doesn't make much sense in this context

I do not understand vegans, I think they are nuts, not just eat them.

 

[dowie]

That makes you same as Hitler in my eyes. He never killed anyone too.

Hitler never killed anyone? WTF? you really are on crack.

 

[sand_dune]

Really? Eating a sardine is the same as cruelty to dogs and cats?

There is nothing hypocritical in eating meat and wanting animals to be looked after.

There is plenty hypocritical in avoiding even animal products (even honey) on ethical grounds but happily eating foods that are produced as the result of large scale deforestation etc..

I am not sure the sardines are on the same intellectual level as dogs or cats. But farmed mammals are. So I spoke about them, not about sardines or squid.

Secondly sardines live free happy lives in the ocean and if caught by nets don't suffer THAT much. So you have my blessing to eat sardines.

But you get my blessing to eat pigs and cows only after you went out and cut some dogs and cats in half and harpooned a dolphin, so that I know you're a real deal.

 

[sand_dune]

Hitler never killed anyone? WTF? you really are on crack.

Well, he waged a glorious war for the fatherland, wasn't that a great and noble thing to do? The bad thing hes attributed to was putting people he disliked into concentration camps. It's a known fact that he didn't really want to have do with that activity. He just delegated this activity to his lieutenants and didn't want to hear o know about the sufferings. He just cried, oh do something about those jews, do what you want, don't exhaust me with your questions!

Your mum brought me crack, but I said NO.

 

[Tefal]

That is for as long as large businesses (as supermarkets) and farms and states are lobbying their meaty things. Because meat can be very profitable. You get it from backward countries where they just destroy woods and let kettle eat the grass. So get that meat for little money and sell it here.

The way to manage diet would be to simply sell some veggie burgers with all the nutrients included, like nuts peas and so on. But look at all the people around you. They have not the slightest education or compassion. They could not care less about such burgers.

So your solution is to eat processed crap vegggie burgers which apmost certainly will not have a decent balance of macros let alone aminos etc. (Not to mention taste and texture)

Also i think youll find qe get more of our peas an rice from other countries than we do meat.

Nearly everything in supermarkets is british/eu so they can stick a union jack on it.

Whole saleers though is mostly south american stuff true.

 

[Tefal]

I am not sure the sardines are on the same intellectual level as dogs or cats. But farmed mammals are. So I spoke about them, not about sardines or squid.

Secondly sardines live free happy lives in the ocean and if caught by nets don't suffer THAT much. So you have my blessing to eat sardines.

But you get my blessing to eat pigs and cows only after you went out and cut some dogs and cats in half and harpooned a dolphin, so that I know you're a real deal.

If farm animals are on the same intellectual level as dogs why do we need dogs to herd them, could just train the sheep to herd themselves

 

[dowie]

I am not sure the sardines are on the same intellectual level as dogs or cats. But farmed mammals are. So I spoke about them, not about sardines or squid.

Secondly sardines live free happy lives in the ocean and if caught by nets don't suffer THAT much. So you have my blessing to eat sardines.

But you get my blessing to eat pigs and cows only after you went out and cut some dogs and cats in half and harpooned a dolphin, so that I know you're a real deal.

actually you didn't specify farmed animals in the post I quoted and my criticism was of veganism so excluding lesser animals isn't really a valid argument against what I'd said as I pointed out previously

 

[FloppyPoppy]

reminds me of this.

this is funny to!

 

[dowie]

Well, he waged a glorious war for the fatherland, wasn't that a great and noble thing to do? The bad thing hes attributed to was putting people he disliked into concentration camps. It's a known fact that he didn't really want to have do with that activity. He just delegated this activity to his lieutenants and didn't want to hear o know about the sufferings. He just cried, oh do something about those jews, do what you want, don't exhaust me with your questions!

Your mum brought me crack, but I said NO.

What does that have to do with anything? Your claim was that he didn't kill anyone - that is likely complete nonsense as he was awarded the iron cross for his part in the battle of the Somme and also participated in a few other notable battles in WW1 as an NCO in the German army!