The next UKIP leader thread

It's still so cute when people who had things go their way point out one way "democracy".

Not as cute as when people who didn't have things go their way start suggesting that the people who didn't bother to vote actually agreed with them.
 
Lol what? Nige has been paid by the EU to be an MEP, what scams has he been running again?

Having the lowest voting attendence of any EU member?

Turning up to claim his expenses everyday but then not attending parliament?

ANy UK MP with his record would be quite rightly lambasted.
 
I'm quite frankly sick of the whiners who can't accept the result. We don't re-run general elections if we don't get the answer you're looking for

It's a pity you came back from whatever exile was imposed/self-imposed on you.

Firstly, who's actually whining? The only really annoying thing after the vote is that people clearly haven't yet got a clue how to sort this mess out. Other than that? Lets get on with it. But to say people can't want to work to change the result? Undemocratic in the extreme.

Secondly - people get to revote in the next general elections, so the party that lied through their teeth and didnt stick to the manifesto can get voted out. The same does not go for the leave campaign that lied through its teeth and won the vote. So trying to use a GE as an analogy to a referendum is pretty pointless.
 
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Not as cute as when people who didn't have things go their way start suggesting that the people who didn't bother to vote actually agreed with them.

Or the small number of racist bigots who think that a very slim majority vote means that they now have a legitimised platform for their views?
 
Or the small number of racist bigots who think that a very slim majority vote means that they now have a legitimised platform for their views?

I thought the facts, actual facts and not merely what the so-called experts think, haven't shown any statistical increase in racist incidents post-Brexit? Facts like the number of actual prosecutions for hate crimes for example.
 
I'm quite frankly sick of the whiners who can't accept the result. We don't re-run general elections if we don't get the answer you're looking for

Actually, we do - every 4-5 years.

Which is not actually that far off a timeframe for a second referendum, after a leave deal has actually been negotiated, but before signing it off.
 
It is still way closer to the truth than the 34% comment above that i replied to, how come you didn't correct that poster, Jas72 above?

They're both true.

34% of voters voted to Leave, against 31% or so who voted to stay, the rest didn't vote, and so 52% of people who voted voted to leave. I described it as an "annoyingly subtle" distinction because it's irritating language and because votes are decided by those who bother to turn up.
 
I thought the facts, actual facts and not merely what the so-called experts think, haven't shown any statistical increase in racist incidents post-Brexit? Facts like the number of actual prosecutions for hate crimes for example.

I know that "so-called" experts aren't fashionable because they get in the way of your rhetoric, but there's a reasonable amount of news about to say that there has been an increase.

I'm sorry I can't find you a Breitbart link to swallow blindly.
 
I know that "so-called" experts aren't fashionable because they get in the way of your rhetoric, but there's a reasonable amount of news about to say that there has been an increase.

I'm sorry I can't find you a Breitbart link to swallow blindly.

I'm sure we've been over this and it was reported crimes rather than actual proven crimes.
 
But the figures aren't 'proven crimes' in the past vs random allegations now. It's not comparing apples with oranges. It's the change in recorded instances of crimes from last year to this year, and from before the referendum to shortly after it and a while after it. That can't be shrugged off with a 'lol it's not convictions so EVERYTHING IS A-OKAY'. The figures aren't an important measure, even if it's not just convictions... it's normal to use such stats, given how with many crimes there isn't a conviction. If they didn't, the crime stats wouldn't reflect reality by a massive margin.

Ok but does the amount of reported crimes really mean anything?
 
Just going, 'lol it's only reported crimes, who gives a smeg?' seems the wrong approach.

By this logic nobody should be saying that the increase in reported crimes is clearly because of the referendum result, or that people who campaigned and voted for remain are responsible either.
 
*wades into thread just before things get interesting

*prepares to scatter a few trigger sentences

Anyone lost their job as a result of Brexit result yet? Nigel Farage has... Surely some of you are happy with that?

First remainers were like:
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Now they are like:
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