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KillBoY_UK said:
I know on release day my GTX680 was cheaper and faster, why else did AMD drop there prices and released a higher clocked version then (which broke the Performance per watt as well).

As i said Completion help keep prices down.
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I never said it wasn't faster at release I just said the 7970 was the most powerful and it is. Competition helps but Amd have been competing and pricing has been rising. This gen granted is the worst due to Vega not being around but I think the gpu consumers have made there bed and will have to lie in it. People showing they are willing to pay so Nvidia will milk it for all they can. AMD might come in cheaper but with Nvidia pricing where they have Amd can price below them and still be priced higher than there usual.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I never said it wasn't faster at release I just said the 7970 was the most powerful and it is. Competition helps but Amd have been competing and pricing has been rising. This gen granted is the worst due to Vega not being around but I think the gpu consumers have made there bed and will have to lie in it. People showing they are willing to pay so Nvidia will milk it for all they can. AMD might come in cheaper but with Nvidia pricing where they have Amd can price below them and still be priced higher than there usual.
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+1 Agreed
 
7970 was the best card they ever produced. The 290 was a complete failure in my eyes, I had nothing but issues with it, which lead me to moving to nVidia.
 
I am always interested in people complaining about high end GPU pricing but are still prepared to buy one... it just shows NVidia that the market is there and if people are prepared to pay then why not put prices up?
 
snips86x said:
7970 was the best card they ever produced. The 290 was a complete failure in my eyes, I had nothing but issues with it, which lead me to moving to nVidia.
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I didn't get my 290 until a year after launch and it's been faultless. Pretty much showing the 7 series gtx780 a clean pair of heels these days and doing pretty well v Maxwell gm104 cards. It might not have started off great but it's now turning out to be one of Amd's best.
 
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Relentless81 said:
290x was one of the best cards I've ever owned and was my first AMD card, it just kept giving and if I still had a 1080p monitor I would still have it now
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It's an amazing card with quite the shelf life. Im effectively running one in my 390x. As a 1080p card Its fab. maxes everything out no danger.
 
Hawaii was a pretty fantastic GPU. There are still only a small handful of chips that have bettered it three years later. It's just a shame the reference model was so bad. Actually, it's a shame that so many of the custom cards were bad too, from XFX's burning VRMs to Asus' quarter-assed recycling of their GTX 780 cooler. Sapphire really distinguished themselves as the premier AIB partner with their efforts to tame it. The 290X Vapor-X is still my favourite card in terms of build quality.
 
In 2007 the 8800gtx was $599 and the 8800 ultra was $829! The ultra only cost £500 here though as the pound was so strong. I remember buying a 8800gtx close to release for about £330. That almost two dollars to the pound exchange rate was awesome.

Also the starting price for the 1070 and 1080 is only 50 dollars more than it was for the 970 and 980, it just appears to be a lot more due to our heavily weakend currency (are money is worth 20% less against the dollar now compared with when the 900 series released)

if you compare things to 2007,s 8800 series, nvidias pricing hasn't increased much, if at all (titan cards being the exception granted)
 
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But how they price what has. It is def not the same. The 8800 gtx and ultra were the same gpu configuration. The Ultra with slightly higher clocks and +$200 on the pricetag.
Its the equivalent of a super XXX OC card of an existing product for silly money but done by Nvidia rather than AIB partners.

Today it's a different product segmentation and pricing plan they are using.
 
I paid £199 for my 7970 at the ocuk new shop opening special offer day. A Bargain.

Think when I finally sold it a couple of years later I got £150 for it.
 
eddyr said:
But how they price what has. It is def not the same. The 8800 gtx and ultra were the same gpu configuration. The Ultra with slightly higher clocks and +$200 on the pricetag.
Its the equivalent of a super XXX OC card of an existing product for silly money but done by Nvidia rather than AIB partners.

Today it's a different product segmentation and pricing plan they are using.
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Well if anything it is better then. The 8800 ultra rrp was outrageous for what it was. It just seemed less so here as the pound was so strong . That 829 dollars would likely be £800 here now.
 
260 -216 edition cost me around £249.99 huge performance boost my first real GPU had some awful 8600 GT prior.

Also my first experience of cpu bottle necking, when i upgraded to Phenom II from Athlon 64 it was like a second upgrade :D
 
TwsT said:
260 -216 edition cost me around £249.99 huge performance boost my first real GPU had some awful 8600 GT prior.

Also my first experience of cpu bottle necking, when i upgraded to Phenom II from Athlon 64 it was like a second upgrade :D
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Haha i remember having two 8600gt 256mb in SLI in my first serious rig with a q6600, what a great time it was. i didnt upgrade until hd5770
 
Jono8 said:
Well if anything it is better then. The 8800 ultra rrp was outrageous for what it was. It just seemed less so here as the pound was so strong . That 829 dollars would likely be £800 here now.
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If you use the 8800 series as a product segmentation and rough pricing template ($) for Pascal.
Full GP102 at $600+ segment
which places GP104 (1080 downwards) to be a likely $400 and down.

So in 2016, according to this inflation calc.http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ you would be looking at
GP102 ~$700
Gp104 ~$460

Of course the argument about higher cost of production could be made. Both on fabricating on these smaller processes and one could also claim that NV are able to pursue bigger/better design targets for both tiers of product (So would a GP104 made under their old model have as much performance for eg). I'll leave that analysis to someone else!
 
eddyr said:
If you use the 8800 series as a product segmentation and rough pricing template ($) for Pascal.
Full GP102 at $600+ segment
which places GP104 (1080 downwards) to be a likely $400 and down.

So in 2016, according to this inflation calc.http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ you would be looking at
GP102 ~$700
Gp104 ~$460
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But there was an Ultra for $829 :p. You could turn that into the fact that at least you are getting a better jump/halo product at the crazy high price points instead of just a clock bump (seen as the 1080Ti will likely be 750 dollars+).

All I was saying is that if we had the same exchange rate as back in 2007, or even the same as September 2014, no one would be batting an eyelid at the 1000 series prices at all.

It feels like we are getting shafted by Nvidia, when in fact it was us who shafted ourselves.
 
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Jono8 said:
But there was an Ultra for $829 :p. You could turn that into the fact that at least you are getting a better jump/halo product at the crazy high price points instead of just a clock bump (seen as the 1080Ti will likely be 750 dollars+).
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:p Well, I'd still rather the full gpu config be brought down the pricing brackets than a scenario that exists to give those who are happy to spend the $$$ better feels for having spent it. A greater proportion would have a better Feels : Dollar ratio the old way!
Although I am sure the actual calculation is slightly skewed by the $ spent feeding back into perceived feels :/

All I was saying is that if we had the same exchange rate as back in 2007, or even the same as September 2014, no one would be batting an eyelid at the 1000 series prices at all.

It feels like we are getting shafted by Nvidia, when in fact it was us who shafted ourselves.
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That we have, a collaborative self-shafting.
 
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