Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!

Semple said:
Do people not keep receipts for their more expensive items?

At the end of the day the HCEO's are hardly going to turn up and threaten to take away a bookshelf, or a set of cupboards. They'll look at high priced goods, typically electronics - TV's, Stereo systems, games consoles, PC's/Laptops etc. Surely you'd keep your receipt for those even if only for warranty purposes?
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My TV is 3 years old and I no longer have the receipt. It was bought from ASDA and all I got was a normal till receipt. No name or address therefore what proof does that show it's mine or the debtor who is named on the writ?

Also with all the stuff that people buy online these days, you'll have a digital receipt emailed to you. Or purchases through Amazon for example are all tracked in your account - and go back years.
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As previously stated, if you call their bluff and start hunting out receipts the bailiffs change their tactics. If haven't got time for you to trawl through websites for online receipts.

It's all about installing fear to get results. Actions of thugs and bullies.
 
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I like the bit where the bailiffs wear body armour gear and walkie talkie with cam, then say on camera once we started to dress like this we got less issue and more co-operation, obviously nothing to do with the fact they look like an police officer.

I don't like people that use Fear and intimidation to get what they want but at this point who is not a criminal !

I find it also very unfair they bump up the cost by a few grand, does it really cost few hundred or 1K on top of the dept ? Someone is clearly profiting too much here.

I can however see both sides of the fence, if someone has been not paying rent and living there free, they need to be removed asap its just a shame the person gets off scott free and it cost the other person major cost in the process.
 
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Semple said:
Do people not keep receipts for their more expensive items?
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If I kept all my receipts for all my expensive items I would need a massive man drawer. If an item is now out of guarantee what is the point of keeping a receipt?

(Obviously if Bailiffs come knocking)
 
Vale said:
Just watched tonight's episode. Enjoyed it. Favourite ever episode was the one with the scouse garage owner, [muchhandwaving]"Ya carn 'ave it I carn pay it"[/muchhandwaving].

It makes me laugh when they fold.

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Loved that episode, i was lmao at him, when he was doing the Mobot and saying 'i carn pay it', 'i carn pay it!' :D
 
The difference is that I have no duty to provide bailiffs with receipts in order to prove something is mine. They need to prove it is the debtors.

In all these programs I haven't seen them take anything they themselves haven't proven belongs to the debtor.

So its all a massive bluff designed to get other people (friends and family) to pay for the debt by leading them to believe (lying) that they will take everything unless receipts are shown. Unfortunately most of these friends and family aren't in a position to stand their ground as they don't know the law and a random writ has been shown (which gives no authority to take their goods or even enter their property).

It would be called extortion of I did that to someone.

The debtors most of the time are completely bankrupt if the debt is enforced, and no one else needs to pay on their behalf, but the bailiffs won't mention that.
 
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R3X said:
I like the bit where the bailiffs wear body armour gear and walkie talkie with cam, then say on camera once we started to dress like this we got less issue and more co-operation, obviously nothing to do with the fact they are illegally impersonating a police officer.
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You must be taking the ****, wearing a walkie talkie is impersonating a police officer? :D Where does it say "police" on their outfit? Oh wait it doesn't, it says "high court enforcement officer".

I find it also very unfair they bump up the cost by a few grand, does it really cost few hundred or 1K on top of the dept ? Someone is clearly profiting too much here.
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No one is profiting, it is the fee from the courts.
 
I just hope that some people in here who are totally against these Bailiffs will some time in the future face their own debtors. I'd like to see how they handle it or just let the debtors walk over them.

For [TW}Fox,
I have a work colleague who has been renting out property and the debtor has put her in a lot of financial difficulties which is making her ill. After about a year she is just getting to the point where she will be able to get a court order and it will be legally acted on.
 
Energize said:
No one is profiting, it is the fee from the courts.
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Of course they are profiteering. Yes there are fees allowed by the court but most of them add bogus fees on too. I had a council PCN once and the bailiffs that turned up and tried to add extra fees beyond the fees that they were allowed to add. I can't remember it all now but they are allowed to charge 1 x visiting fee but they were adding multiple fees + "goods removal fees" and made up stuff like that when they didn't even have access to my property.

Needless to say they didn't get a penny from me and the PCN was cleared directly with the council.

EDIT: And before anyone calls me a dirty ***** for not paying my debts, it was in dispute with the council over unclear parking signage.
 
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LeeUK said:
Of course they are profiteering. Yes there are fees allowed by the court but most of them add bogus fees on too. I had a council PCN once and the bailiffs that turned up and tried to add extra fees beyond the fees that they were allowed to add. I can't remember it all now but they are allowed to charge 1 x visiting fee but they were adding multiple fees + "goods removal fees" and made up stuff like that when they didn't even have access to my property.
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Your experience with the council isn't really representative of this TV programme though.
 
Why do people pretend they are not the debtor? It'll come out eventually. It's daft.

Plus wouldn't you want to cooperate instead of looking like a prat on camera?
 
SexyGreyFox said:
I just hope that some people in here who are totally against these Bailiffs will some time in the future face their own debtors. I'd like to see how they handle it or just let the debtors walk over them.

For [TW}Fox,
I have a work colleague who has been renting out property and the debtor has put her in a lot of financial difficulties which is making her ill. After about a year she is just getting to the point where she will be able to get a court order and it will be legally acted on.
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I would not extort other people into paying the debtor's liability, not only because it is morally wrong, it is sensibly illegal.

Anyone acting on my behalf represents me, and should work within the law at all times. In these programmes it is clear they are stepping into grey areas because they are getting away with it. In no consumer facing environment would anyone get away with any of that. The problem is they don't seem to be accountable to anyone and admit they use bullying tactics.

Finally, your work colleague needs to pay more attention if it is over a year. Secondly, if she is getting into difficulty because of 1 year's rent then she is far too leveraged trying to be an amateur landlord. And it comes back to that, she is a landlord and needs to work for her money (which includes collecting rent). If she wants a stress free return, tell her to buy government bonds or put the money in a bank. There is a reason rent returns are at their lowest 4%, it's not a case of mortgaging a property and finding some tenants every few years.
 
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Using words like "extortion" lol, before this programme was aired there will have been extensive legal consultation to ensure everything is above board. Hence why it has been shown to millions of people and no issue has come of it.
 
I'm not referring to any legal definition.

For the record a similar program did lead to such problems as people took action. The police were helping bailiffs stop cars and then clamp them (they were being paid). The bailiffs would say which car they wanted stopped, and the police would stop them under the guise of checking insurance and licence documents. Then would use breach of the peace powers to stop cars from getting away.

The result? The police stopped doing this as FoI requests were made to see how much they were being paid to effectively work for private companies.

This was all shown on TV.
 
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muon said:
Finally, your work colleague needs to pay more attention if it is over a year. Secondly, if she is getting into difficulty because of 1 year's rent then she is far too leveraged trying to be an amateur landlord. And it comes back to that, she is a landlord and needs to work for her money (which includes collecting rent). If she wants a stress free return, tell her to buy government bonds or put the money in a bank. There is a reason rent returns are at their lowest 4%, it's not a case of mortgaging a property and finding some tenants every few years.
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For [TW]Fox:
A mate of mine has around 6 houses but he rents out to the Council and they've never missed a payment. He doesn't get as much but is assured getting paid.
 
Also this programme is only showing you what they want you to see. There will be plenty of times where they wouldn't have got payment and wouldn't have got inside the property to carry out their removal of goods threats. Obviously this wouldn't make good TV so they'll edit these cases out.
 
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