WW3- what do you think?

WW3 and a nuclear winter are inevitable, It's only a matter of time, I think the human race has run it's course especially with the amount of pure scum in the world and it's time to end it.
 
Dicehunter said:
I rarely ever watch, Read or listen to the media, Based on my last 30 years of experience the earth could do with a damn good cull.
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Unfortunately a good percentage of those people are probably the ones who'll be holed up under 300feet of rock in the event something like WW3 did happen :|
 
Rilot said:
If there's a nuke heading for the UK, I'm getting in the car along with the family and driving straight towards it. I don't want to live in the world that will exist after.
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This.

Once one nuclear missile flies 5000 others will follow and that will be the end of the world.

In all fairness given the amount of sick **** that goes on in the world today because of religion, false beliefs, masochism etc a bit of ethnic cleaning of humanity is what the world needs to survive. Whilst we are here we'll always be killing....
 
helpimcrap said:
This.

Once one nuclear missile flies 5000 others will follow and that will be the end of the world.

In all fairness given the amount of sick **** that goes on in the world today because of religion, false beliefs, masochism etc a bit of ethnic cleaning of humanity is what the world needs to survive. Whilst we are here we'll always be killing....
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I actually don't think a modern day full on exchange would be as bad as many of the nuclear winter scenarios would have people believe - not to say it would be good - but most of those scenarios are based on dirty old atom bombs utilised entirely against population centres, etc. while modern day warheads tend to be significantly more localised in terms of fallout especially if used in airburst configuration and the larger percentage would be used against military targets that are often in remoter locations often fairly barren landscapes of even full on desert (so a lot less material burning) - IMO globally the impact would probably be more along the lines of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer though a little worse.
 
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Probably not full WW3 but this sort thing (as imagined by the Civ: Beyond Earth team) is plausible.


Who knows though. I doubt anyone born in 1890 imagined there'd be one, nevermind two, global conflicts within their lifetime.
 
stopper said:
No Putin isn't daft enough, but clearly the US government still believes it can win with a first strike though, so I wouldn't put it past them at all.
Why else would the US surround Russia, Iran and china with military bases.
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Isn't the whole "big bad Russia" thing a complete myth at this point? I mean in terms of the actual threat they pose, before even considering if/why they'd want to start a war with the west.

Doesn't the US today have more military hardware than pretty much the rest of the world *combined*? I'm sure I read that a couple years back. That basically the US has *no* credible threat anywhere on this planet, but they quite like us to think there is a threat; how else do they justify the billions spent on their forces, etc.

Aren't a lot of the "threats" to the west, grossly inflated out of all proportion by our fear-mongering media? It borders on being irresponsible, since it could actually influence the voting public to put far-right governments in place who could make the world a far less stable place.
 
FoxEye said:
Doesn't the US today have more military hardware than pretty much the rest of the world *combined*? I'm sure I read that a couple years back. That basically the US has *no* credible threat anywhere on this planet, but they quite like us to think there is a threat; how else do they justify the billions spent on their forces, etc.
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Actually they were first threatened in 2000 when Saddam Hussain started selling oil in Euros.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/943100.stm

People need to read up on the Petrodollar and Bretton Woods it's the reason why the US can afford such a big military and run up an infinite national debt.

The US are being attacked economically with Russia, China (BRICS and co.) building their own independent financial systems and trying to decouple themselves from the US Dollar in trade, for example Iran are now selling oil in Euros:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-oil-iran-exclusive-idUKKCN0VE1P9

WW3 only really suits the US at this point and I suspect that's what Russia/China are afraid of, desperate times call for desperate measures...
 
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FoxEye said:
Isn't the whole "big bad Russia" thing a complete myth at this point? I mean in terms of the actual threat they pose, before even considering if/why they'd want to start a war with the west.

Doesn't the US today have more military hardware than pretty much the rest of the world *combined*? I'm sure I read that a couple years back. That basically the US has *no* credible threat anywhere on this planet, but they quite like us to think there is a threat; how else do they justify the billions spent on their forces, etc.

Aren't a lot of the "threats" to the west, grossly inflated out of all proportion by our fear-mongering media? It borders on being irresponsible, since it could actually influence the voting public to put far-right governments in place who could make the world a far less stable place.
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Both Russia and China pose a threat potentially in terms of nuclear first strike though obviously unlikely to ever be used but this is where I'm cautious - if the US pushes Russia around long enough there is a very real possibility of them eventually doing something dramatic - to think otherwise is to misunderstand Russian mentality.

Also the numbers are a bit of a lie - a significant proportion of US military spending over the last few years has been used ineffectively with a lot of waste while over that time Russia has been pushing to get better value for their money and cutting losses on failed projects, etc. that isn't to say they have the capabilities for WW3 - they don't have the resources or logistics to win in any major conflict scenario that they'd possibly go to war for but they are in a lot better shape than the raw number comparisons would suggest.
 
mmj_uk said:
Actually they were first threatened in 2000 when Saddam Hussain started selling oil in Euros.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/943100.stm

People need to read up on the Petrodollar and Bretton Woods it's the reason why the US can afford such a big military and run up an infinite national debt.

The US are being attacked economically with Russia, China (BRICS and co.) building their own independent financial systems and trying to decouple themselves from the US Dollar in trade, for example Iran are now selling oil in Euros:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-oil-iran-exclusive-idUKKCN0VE1P9

WW3 only really suits the US at this point and I suspect that's what Russia/China are afraid of, desperate times call for desperate measures...
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I think the prospect of the invasion of Iraq predates the Iraqi decision to quit using the $. Considering their currency wasn't worth much that switch wouldn't really have affected them anyway.

To say they invaded because of that decision would be wrong. The Iraqi switch was more of a result of the last invasion and the sanctions they were under.

Saying the US are actually pushing for ww3... well that's nonsense!

FoxEye said:
Isn't the whole "big bad Russia" thing a complete myth at this point? I mean in terms of the actual threat they pose, before even considering if/why they'd want to start a war with the west.

Doesn't the US today have more military hardware than pretty much the rest of the world *combined*? I'm sure I read that a couple years back. That basically the US has *no* credible threat anywhere on this planet, but they quite like us to think there is a threat; how else do they justify the billions spent on their forces, etc.

Aren't a lot of the "threats" to the west, grossly inflated out of all proportion by our fear-mongering media? It borders on being irresponsible, since it could actually influence the voting public to put far-right governments in place who could make the world a far less stable place.
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They have a navy comprising of 10 or 11 carrier groups any one of which is probably a match for any other country's entire navy and airforce combined.
Airforce is similarly humungous and army while not the biggest in numbers is probably one of the best equipped with armour.

Think they've had to make cut backs as their spending is crazy. Not all very efficiently either. Those next gen airplanes cost silly money, have all sorts of issues and probably already out of date seeing as unmanned seems to be the way to go now. Still it's close to political suicide to try to cut their forces too much. 3rd party dealers that supply them (probably like BAE) must be making mountains of cash out of them.

I don't think Russia are a threat in terms of kicking off ww3 unless things spiral in a silly fashion. I do worry what happens when people in Russia become sick of his stranglehold on the Kremlin...
 
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