US: **The Walking Dead Season 7 - Contains Spoilers - No future content to be discussed **
- Thread starter ci_newman
- Start date
Soldato
- Joined
- 20 Jun 2004
- Posts
- 5,958
- Location
- Essex
Hmmm, think they've gone too far really.
1) It now doesn't really matter if Rick kills Negan by the end of the series, he's done too much in killing both of them so graphically. Killing him will never bring any sort of closure as it's gone too far already.
2) Maggie is now an utterly pointless character. It's quite frankly RIDICULOUS that she hasn't killed herself already. Her entire family and now Glen have been wiped out, each in gruesome fashion and having another baby in the mix will be totally redundant. We haven't even seen Ricks child in ages! Hopefully they'll just kill her off soon.
1) It now doesn't really matter if Rick kills Negan by the end of the series, he's done too much in killing both of them so graphically. Killing him will never bring any sort of closure as it's gone too far already.
2) Maggie is now an utterly pointless character. It's quite frankly RIDICULOUS that she hasn't killed herself already. Her entire family and now Glen have been wiped out, each in gruesome fashion and having another baby in the mix will be totally redundant. We haven't even seen Ricks child in ages! Hopefully they'll just kill her off soon.
Some of the replies in this thread lol.....
People complain when they go slow and have little to no violence/action and when they do, people then complain that it is too much
Episode was certainly graphic and gruesome but we have had plenty of episodes with scenes just as brutal imo i.e.
- Dale getting his stomach torn apart
- Maggie performing the c-section and then having Carl "end" his mum
- cannibals slicing the throats of people like they were cattle and then showing them eating people's body parts
- Rick and his group going full machete on the terminal/cannibal guy in the church
- Carl about to get raped by the motorbike gang ending with Rick ripping the old guys throat out with his mouth and then ramming his knife all the way up the guys chest
- Governor getting stabbed in his eye with glass
- children being brutally killed, both zombie children and alive ones, you don't really see this happen with the big zombie films let alone many horror films....
- Rick chopping of the hand of his new girlfriend followed by Carl's eye getting skimmed by a bullet ending with Michonne sticking her katana through the kids chest
And a whole ton of other brutality.
People complain when they go slow and have little to no violence/action and when they do, people then complain that it is too much
Episode was certainly graphic and gruesome but we have had plenty of episodes with scenes just as brutal imo i.e.
- Dale getting his stomach torn apart
- Maggie performing the c-section and then having Carl "end" his mum
- cannibals slicing the throats of people like they were cattle and then showing them eating people's body parts
- Rick and his group going full machete on the terminal/cannibal guy in the church
- Carl about to get raped by the motorbike gang ending with Rick ripping the old guys throat out with his mouth and then ramming his knife all the way up the guys chest
- Governor getting stabbed in his eye with glass
- children being brutally killed, both zombie children and alive ones, you don't really see this happen with the big zombie films let alone many horror films....
- Rick chopping of the hand of his new girlfriend followed by Carl's eye getting skimmed by a bullet ending with Michonne sticking her katana through the kids chest
And a whole ton of other brutality.
9pm isn't exactly late though is it considering the content they're showing. Imagine your 13 year old child flicking through the channels and seeing Glenn's face scene, seriously.
To think you can flick between The Apprentice and this episode of TWD at the same time is slightly disturbing.
I don't care, 9pm is the watershed, I see scantily clad people in eastenders and holly oaks jumping into bed with each other at 6:30 and 7:30/8 all the time so what makes violence any different after the watershed.
The show is even prefaced with warnings.
The show is even prefaced with warnings.
So moving it 1 hour later will stop people watching it? If they have access to it at 9pm, moving it 1 hour later won't change that.
If I didn't want my 13 year old watching it I'd do the responsible thing and turn on the parental controls.
Realistically, it's a subscription-based channel, they should be allowed to show whatever they want whenever they want.
Also why draw the line at this? The previous season we had people getting stabbed in the head whilst they slept, we've also had people ripped apart, we've had cannibalism too, what makes this a step to far?
Negan's storyline provides enough material to last at least two seasons if not until the end of the series and what we've seen in terms of brutality is about 8 in the scale of up to 10 if the show makers decide to re-use "highlights" of his career.
To be honest, Glenn's departure in comic book had much bigger impact on me - I think partially because it was so well written and graphic that I fully expected the show makers to do 1:1 re-imagining of it, but also because as viewers we had several months to prep for it and by nature of scheduling lost some of the direct pressure and involvement during hiatus, whereas in comic book it happens page to page, you don't break for summer in Negan's story.
To be honest, Glenn's departure in comic book had much bigger impact on me - I think partially because it was so well written and graphic that I fully expected the show makers to do 1:1 re-imagining of it, but also because as viewers we had several months to prep for it and by nature of scheduling lost some of the direct pressure and involvement during hiatus, whereas in comic book it happens page to page, you don't break for summer in Negan's story.
Soldato
- Joined
- 26 Jan 2003
- Posts
- 6,982
- Location
- Surrey
Very gruesome but it's what the show needed - interested to see where it goes now!
I am a bit puzzled by the axe on the roof as that doesn't move (you can see it on the roof when Rick drives the RV off at the end) yet there's another axe out on the floor which he finds and uses to fight his way back to the RV through all the Zeds ?!
I am a bit puzzled by the axe on the roof as that doesn't move (you can see it on the roof when Rick drives the RV off at the end) yet there's another axe out on the floor which he finds and uses to fight his way back to the RV through all the Zeds ?!
I was wondering that as well, negen throws the axe up on the roof of the van, but theres also one laying around outside that looked the same.
I was wondering that as well, negen throws the axe up on the roof of the van, but theres also one laying around outside that looked the same.
Unless I'm mistaken, Rick picks it up before jumping and hanging onto that zombie and drops it during the struggle to not get bitten.
Too far... for goodness sake, grow up. I see there's professional reviewers whinging along the same lines. Negan is supposed to be horrific. He's a foe beyond anything they've faced so far. He's not just powerful or violent, he is terrifying and wields a psychological power over people. I doubt we'll quite see the worst of what he does in the comics, they're far worse.
Good grief, we didn't see the half of what Michonne did to the governor in the comics. You want to talk about torture porn...
Good grief, we didn't see the half of what Michonne did to the governor in the comics. You want to talk about torture porn...
WOW.
That episode was immense.
Up until now the whole series was a "what would I do if I was there" fantasy. That episode totally changed the game to a "I want to be anywhere else" situation.
Suddenly the reality of the world they live in became real.
In isolation it was "shock TV", but as an episode in a long running series with characters you know and care about it was immense.
That episode was immense.
Up until now the whole series was a "what would I do if I was there" fantasy. That episode totally changed the game to a "I want to be anywhere else" situation.
Suddenly the reality of the world they live in became real.
In isolation it was "shock TV", but as an episode in a long running series with characters you know and care about it was immense.
Mixed feelings on the episode. Very intense, but I think it lost some impact (probably not the best choice of word) with the season break. I had rather de-tuned from involvement with the characters due to the break, so it was less of a shock to see who died. The shock was more about the graphic violence and really that's not where the emphasis should have been. Often you can tell a story better by what you don't show than what you do. But of course, TWD has never really been that kind of show.
The show was loosing it's way so it has to keep on pulling something shocking out of the bag. It's almost not shocking because you know it's got to be something over the top to compete with what's gone previously. Seemed a bit OTT in comparison to killing a zombie which is already dead. You don't expect that from an American show, no sugar coating on that one. Was also surprised Rick didn't give his son any hug after what had just happened. I guess they were all in shock but there wasn't much in the way of consoling one another.
Associate
- Joined
- 11 Aug 2014
- Posts
- 1,095
- Location
- Wiltshire
Without doubt one of the best 45 mins of Television I've ever watched, was gripped from start to finish. It massively hooked you back in with the loss of characters and i was willing for just a fraction of good to happen to the group but it never came.
Hopefully Norman Reedus will take a pivotal role this season, I think he's going to have do some horrific things in order to save the group.
I can understand people finding it a little OTT but the show has never hid from shocks. The hand will he / won't he scenario had me going, I genuinely started to believe it would happen even though logically I knew it would cost too much to edit that for the rest of the season.
Hopefully Norman Reedus will take a pivotal role this season, I think he's going to have do some horrific things in order to save the group.
I can understand people finding it a little OTT but the show has never hid from shocks. The hand will he / won't he scenario had me going, I genuinely started to believe it would happen even though logically I knew it would cost too much to edit that for the rest of the season.
Shocking episode but found I didn't really care - had already figured out Abraham was almost certainly going to get it and they'd over played it for Glenn dying having any impact - as above with the break, etc. I was pretty much "de-tuned" in any involvement so it had much less impact.
Lets hope they actually do something interesting with the rest of the season.
Lets hope they actually do something interesting with the rest of the season.