No Bigots Need Book An Airbnb Room

Racism is rife in the UK, its disgusting, its increased nearly 50% since the brexit vote.

Nothing to do with the vote, these people were already this way before the vote. They are just stupid enough to think the vote has given them a green light to act on their intolerance.
 
Cool. Another OCUK thread where people defend their right to hate gays/brown people/women as if it's totally fine.

This place really has changed in the last few years :(

It really hasn't, it used to be much worse. When the previous owner (Spie) was around, he would make very openly racist and sexist comments. A number of racists were allowed to go about their racist ways on that forums with little to no consequence.

Since he sold up, the business and forums have become better.
 
It really hasn't, it used to be much worse. When the previous owner (Spie) was around, he would make very openly racist and sexist comments. A number of racists were allowed to go about their racist ways on that forums with little to no consequence.

Since he sold up, the business and forums have become better.

Oh I remember that, especially his "Why do asian people smell" thread, but GD didn't used to be like this. Or maybe I'm just mis-remembering.
 
I've never used it but from what I've heard isn't Airbnb rather ****?

Airbnb is pretty great the couple of times I've used it. The first time my girlfriend and I stayed in someone spare room in what I can only describe as a mansion in Edinburgh. The second time we rented a whole apartment in Barcelona. Had great experiences both times.
 
Yes, black guests with profile photos were finding that places that were 'fully booked' weren't when they reapplied with an account with photo of a white person.

Companies like Uber have faced similar problems.

it is complete nonsense, a PR move by them because they're getting flack about discrimination

if they really wanted to stop any form of discrimination then they'd blind the guests and hosts from being able to see any protected characteristics until after the booking has been made - i.e. age, gender, race etc.. you'd not be able to see photos etc..

But they're not going to do that because, for guests who are letting a room out in their own house they'd rather get some idea of what sort of person they'd be letting into their home and being able to see the person and read a lot about them then make a subjective judgement whether to accept them.

so for example a couple of 21 year old female students in London are not necessarily going to want Frank the 60 year old from Barnsley crashing on their sofa but will be perfectly happy with Brad and Sheela a 20-somthing couple of backpackers from Australia

airbnb is going to have to carry on letting guests and hosts make subjective judgements else the system won't work as well... however they need to be able to claim they're cracking down on 'discrimination' and can perhaps, at best, detect the really egregious cases that have been highlighted/flagged up to them
 
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so for example a couple of 21 year old female students in London are not necessarily going to want Frank the 60 year old from Barnsley crashing on their sofa but will be perfectly happy with Brad and Sheela a 20-somthing couple of backpackers from Australia

Well tough, if those girls don't want Frank on their sofa because he's a 60 y/o male they'll be banned from Airbnb under the new rules. They need to be as accepting of him as they would to Brad and Sheela.

EDIT: I understand this is the point you were getting at, but just emphasising that this doesn't just target Dave who doesn't like brown people.
 
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As a member of Airbnb, I got this e-mail:



For example, if I refuse to let my room to a 34 year old Syrian child that has decided now he's in England, he's a big boy and wants to be independent from his foster parents, I would be breaching the commitment.

What do you think ocuk? Is it a step in the right direction or should you be able to choose who you 'share' your home with?

It seems bizarre to me for a business to police its customers like this.

Maybe somebody can set up a discrimonatory service. Perhaps they can call it "Aryan BnB" or something.
 
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Well tough, if those girls don't want Frank on their sofa because he's a 60 y/o male they'll be banned from Airbnb under the new rules. They need to be as accepting of him as they would to Brad and Sheela.

except they likely won't, as above if airbnb wanted to really stop any possible discrimination then they'd blind age, race, gender etc.. they won't want to do that as people (well at least people renting space within their own home rather than an additional property they own) will be picky about the people they want to let in, which will mean making subjective judgements based on a variety of things included factors that are supposed to be protected

if this wasn't the case then airbnb could solve this by simply blinding these characteristics, blinding the photos pre-booking etc.. and leave it purely down to feedback and introductions

I'd think the case I gave above would be highly unlikely to be picked up, especially for hosts that only occasionally rent out say a sofa, spare room.

They'll also struggle to detect discrimination among the guest given it is the hosts that are getting the requests then accepting,rejecting them whereas the guests are just browsing a whole bunch of listings and selecting only one.
Even attempting to detect that sort of thing could lead to so many false positives and a lot of fall out from their hosts.

And to be honest there could be legitimate reasons for some choices that some algo might flag up as 'discrimination' - a repeat Chinese visitor to London specifically stays with a British Chinese person each trip because their English isn't very good so they want a host who speaks their language - that isn't discriminating on race - there exist white people who speak Cantonese or Mandarin etc.. they're just less likely to be found as hosts and it is a reasonable factor to consider.

The best they can hope for is either the extreme cases being weeded out and/or maybe a select few that are found - randomly/complained about. Like someone rejecting every request from guests named Mohamed or rejecting several black people but accepting the newly joined white guy with zero feedback for the same dates.
 
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Wouldn't be surprised if like other anonymous structures (clearly where its heading) some will eventually be dragged in by some serial killer by this.

I dont get why people ever thing technology like this makes social life safer, it just makes it easier, which usually means worse.

Regardless i'd never use it as its just another app in a stream of apps that require no effort on any individual to find out about other people.
 
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So many attacks *emo tear*

Confirmation biases aside. The commitment is a blackmail to accept their SJW agenda to make 'safe places' or you will lose all your bookings or money and holiday if you are just a customer.

Reading their forums users are of course signing it with mental reservation, but that is dishonest. Many are leaving it, like myself, airbnb won't be getting a penny more from me.
 
Cool. Another OCUK thread where people defend their right to hate gays/brown people/women as if it's totally fine.

This place really has changed in the last few years :(

REALLY THIS

The amount of right wing racists on this forum has increased a lot recently, they always say they are not..........then say 'but' - then say something completely absurd.

They are so very programmed by what they read in extreme right wing news papers, they genuinely see a difference between one human, or another purely based on their skin colour, or where their from - as if they feel superior being a white british person :confused: :mad:

Cut it out *SOME* members of OCUK - if you want to post right wing fascist comments, go join a UKIP or KKK forum.

And no, I'm not going 'OTT', the standard of human from SOME posters is horrendously low, the complete ignorance, self delusional comments is beyond me.

It's literally fact that either British / western planes basically bomb the hell out of non western countries, the innocents getting killed want to come here? Damn right they should - our government created the problem - damn right I support innocent humans wanting to get away from the **** show that our western world creates.

Those that simply comment 'yeah but they just comin ere for more money innit' ............ WOW, any of those posters taking benefits anyway ? Why do people have a right to benefits ? Doesn't matter where you were born.......... WERE ALL HUMAN, WERE ALL FROM THE SAME PLANET.

We have obscene wealth in the west, if I was in charge id tax everyone, especially OCUK forum posters so they couldn't get their next ipad - IF IT MEANT everyone in the world could be fed and watered.

Oh guess what, its theoretically possible with great ease to feed and house everyone on the planet - just the west doesn't want to, shame on us.
 
I think discrimination was always likely to occur when you've got individuals rather than companies renting rooms/choosing who to invite into their own home.

I think another potential can of worms for SJWs will come if/when laws surrounding prostitution are relaxed. If brothels become legal/regulated and non ambiguous advertising allowed.

Bit of a conflict if a sex worker says 'no one over 50', 'only single men, no couples/women', 'no black guys' surely it is down to her to consent and forcing her to accept any customer removes that consent... aka rape! When it comes down to sex people will discriminated based on age, gender, race and if sex is a business then...
 
So many attacks *emo tear*

Confirmation biases aside. The commitment is a blackmail to accept their SJW agenda to make 'safe places' or you will lose all your bookings or money and holiday if you are just a customer.

Reading their forums users are of course signing it with mental reservation, but that is dishonest. Many are leaving it, like myself, airbnb won't be getting a penny more from me.

I know it is hard for you to think you could be that unimportant. But they don't care.

As for your use of American buzzwords, it just goes to show you have an axe to grind.

Business enterprises need to abide by the law. If you don't like it, move to a less liberal country and enjoy their crap society.
 
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