Apple to Introduce New Macs at October 27 Event

What's interesting about this MBP is how many people have jumped on the idea that you need a dongle to connect an iPhone and one of the new MBPs, despite the fact Apple and many others have sold USB-C to lightning cables for a long time.

Why do people keep repeating this, even when they are corrected?
 
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mrochester said:
What's interesting about this MBP is how many people have jumped on the idea that you need a dongle to connect an iPhone and one of the new MBPs, despite the fact Apple and many others have sold USB-C to lightning cables for a long time.

Why do people keep repeating this, even when they are corrected?
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The point is you need to buy something else to do it rather than what you are provided with.
 
mrochester said:
What's interesting about this MBP is how many people have jumped on the idea that you need a dongle to connect an iPhone and one of the new MBPs, despite the fact Apple and many others have sold USB-C to lightning cables for a long time.

Why do people keep repeating this, even when they are corrected?
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Not sure but I think people's main gripe is more than you can buy an iPhone and MBP and they won't connect out of the box unless you also buy another cable.

I generally like Apple products and I love OS X but the new MBP really is a bit of a miss for me.

I read a comment somewhere that they are aimed at people who just have to upgrade their tech every year or two. That sums it up pretty well, the Touch Bar gives them something shiny that they convince themselves they need whilst the rest of us look puzzled at why a pro laptop has been essentially dumbed down.
 
mrochester said:
What's interesting about this MBP is how many people have jumped on the idea that you need a dongle to connect an iPhone and one of the new MBPs, despite the fact Apple and many others have sold USB-C to lightning cables for a long time.

Why do people keep repeating this, even when they are corrected?
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I think its stupid, your brand new £600 phone doesn't connect to your brand new £1500+ laptop, from the same company. Google with the Pixel phones gives you a Type-C cable and a Type-A cable, however the company that still touts 'it just works' leaves you needing to buy your own adapter/cable for their 2 flagship devices to even connect together.

What compounds the issue is that if you get headphones you have to go wireless or it doesn't natively work on both devices so your either left with a dongle on the iPhone, or a dongle on the Macbook Pro.

It doesn't seem like its been properly thought out, one of the biggest gains of going all in with Apple tech is that its meant too make your life easier. I got a Pixel phone cause its actually easier for me to use with a new Macbook Pro, they share a Type-C connector, both have headphone ports.

On another note I did try out the new Laptop today, some people at work got them. Keyboard is tough, the switches feel a lot nicer, the keys are wider, the whole key moves even if your pressing an edge, however its so shallow that it ruins it all for me. If it had similar travel it would be amazing. It felt fast so excited to see how much faster the new 15", it didn't seem a huge deal thinner but it was very light, almost felt hallow compared too the rMBP 13" which feels very dense. One big worry is the 13" non touchbar was sitting at 10hours battery for light usage, I have no clue how the touchbar version will get anything close to 10 hours with less battery, higher wattage CPU, extra display, extra hardware to also power the watchOS mini for the touchbar.
 
Just incidentally, we do all realise that the cable in the iPhone box is also largely designed to be plugged into the charger that is also supplied and still works just fine? You don't have to charge it off a MacBook? That's not even a terribly efficient way of doing it?

To be honest I can't remember the last time I plugged my iPhone into any computer?

Especially with airdrop it's just not necessary anymore.
 
Dooksy said:
Looks like I'm better off getting a 13" Pro, due to VAT savings on purchases over £2000.

MacBook with m5, 8GB of RAM, 512 GB SSD would work out at £1455.60 with discount.
13" Pro with 2.9GHz i5, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD would work out at £1601.28 with discount.

The £150 difference for me gets a substantial spec increase.

Current order was for a 15" that comes in at around £2185 without that VAT, I think I'm stupid if I go through with the order as the 15" is not exactly portable and the power it has would be a waste. Unless I sold the iMac...
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Well I decided on the 13" one but I upgraded the CPU to an i7. I figure it'll give me the best balance of power when needed and portability.
 
matt100 said:
Just incidentally, we do all realise that the cable in the iPhone box is also largely designed to be plugged into the charger that is also supplied and still works just fine? You don't have to charge it off a MacBook? That's not even a terribly efficient way of doing it?

To be honest I can't remember the last time I plugged my iPhone into any computer?

Especially with airdrop it's just not necessary anymore.
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Yep as I've mentioned apple don't want you plugging your phone into the laptop, they haven't for a long time now. It's the same with the iPads. They want you to do everything wirelessly, hence why you can't connect wired external drives to the iPads. People who buy iPhones and iPads have bought into that willingly or not.
 
I can only imagine if we had access to this level of online comment when they remove the floppy drive or the CD ROM drive or the Serial port etc we'd have seen that Apple had been doomed several times previously.

It's just like when they made the iPhone 5 taller and everyone went mental, and when the 30 pin went.... everyone went mental..

And when they released the iPhone 7.. everyone went mental..

And when I say everyone I mean a tiny fraction of the customer base and everyone else went on buying the living daylights out of the devices many said were disastrously bad and would definitely lead to the downfall of Apple.

Also in stark contrast to their troubles in the 90s they have enough money in the bank to make challenging product design choices for probably the next decade with little worry. Look at Blackberry.. they had a few billion in the bank when they started tanking and they're still here, still trying.

The average user will need maybe one or 2 dongles, in the meantime USB-C will become more and more ubiquitous and there you are. There's always been a price for being an early adopter as demonstrated by the weird chinese lightning to lightning and 3.5mm adapter I just got for my iPhone 7.

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Cleisthenes said:
How can you change systems so easily when surely the reason you use Macs is that they provide something PC's don't?

Is the migration from Mac to PC not a pain in the backside also?
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Lol.. nailed it. I'd be fascinated to know how many machines we're talking about and whether there's use of anything more than google services.

Every business I've worked in would be crippled by trying to switch OS en masse. Christ my work has enough trouble with half a dozen of us using Macs whilst the rest are on PCs.
 
matt100 said:
Lol.. nailed it. I'd be fascinated to know how many machines we're talking about and whether there's use of anything more than google services.

Every business I've worked in would be crippled by trying to switch OS en masse. Christ my work has enough trouble with half a dozen of us using Macs whilst the rest are on PCs.
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Yup. Unless they use all remote servers/services so their OS matters less I can't see how they can so easily go "yeah screw it, lets use Windows" *orders*
 
I can't imagine there are too many businesses running 100% apple systems. Everyone I've come across runs a mixture of windows and mac so these points are somewhat moot.
 
Don't underestimate the amount of businesses using BootCamp. They want the look of Mac devices on their shiny desks, but need to actually get work done on Windows systems.
 
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