Theft?

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Not gonna go too much into it but somebody I thought I knew for the better part of 12 years has moved away. I lent him a 3DS XL and Pokemon X+Omega Sapphire nearly two years ago because he was a big fan and was had no hope of affording them.

I keep in contact with him through Steam still and recently asked about the 3DS and getting it back. He skirts around or straight up ignores every question regarding it and the closest he's come to even acknowledging the subject was when I asked him if he thought it belonged to him now to which he was quite defensive. He has made no offers to return it or any information when he may visit to bring it back. All he has bothered to tell me is that he's still living where he is living and won't be coming back.

I'm not going to accept or suggest sending it through the post as it could easily 'get lost' in the mail if you catch my drift. It's pretty shocking somebody would act like that after being good friends for so long, we weren't acquaintances or just occasional friends, we were 'best friends' (though that term makes me cringe) and hung out for all of it until he moved quite recently.

Has anybody else been in a situation like this? I'm not going to go to the police because I feel that's just a poor way to handle the situation nor am I going to beg or anything silly. I will try to get it back a few more times and failing that will cut all contact and remove him from my life completely. It's only £200 or so, which is not a small amount of money but also isn't worth travelling across the country for drama or going through the courts for. It mostly just stings that somebody could act like that to somebody they called a brother and over something so petty, a situation like this just isn't something you create with anybody let alone a real friend.

It's amazing how little you actually know people!

Thoughts?
 
Have you explicitly asked him to give it back?

Of course, several times to which there is no reply until I type something he doesn't like. Everything has been ignored except 'do you think it's yours now?' and typing a message to tell me he still lives where he does and isn't coming back again.
 
"Hi X, regarding the matter of the 3DS, we are both aware that it was lent to you to use, not given. I would prefer to sort this out and have it returned to me and stay friends, but if it's isn't returned then I'll be contacting the police regarding the matter and registering it as theft. If you no longer have the 3DS i'd like you to tell me why and what happened to it!"
 
Reminds me of a similar situation I was in a couple of years ago.. I bought a £60 mouse and used for a couple of days and didn't like so I so I advertised it at 40. A dude at the LAN party I went to wanted to try it for the weekend before he bought it, so I gave it him to try out and then he went home with it.. chased him on Steam soon after and he decided he didn't really like it either. Offered me £10 or nothing as he wouldn't send it back.

Less expensive lesson about people this rock than the above I guess.
 
"Hi X, regarding the matter of the 3DS, we are both aware that it was lent to you to use, not given. I would prefer to sort this out and have it returned to me and stay friends, but if it's isn't returned then I'll be contacting the police regarding the matter and registering it as theft. If you no longer have the 3DS i'd like you to tell me why and what happened to it!"

Works for me.

It was a a loan. Return it, replace it or expect legal action.
 
So if you wont travel to him to get it and you don't want him to send it in the post, how do you expect to get it back?
 
Highly likely he's sold it on by the sounds of it. The friendship is screwed, so either go in hard and tell him you expect either a replacement or £200 within the next 14 days or you'll take matters further. You can say police if you like, but he might find that amusing.

Either that, or just forget about it. If you didn't need it in 2yrs then you're probably alright without it. Expensive mistake, but hey.
 
So if you wont travel to him to get it and you don't want him to send it in the post, how do you expect to get it back?

I said I won't travel to him to create drama, chasing him around to try and get it back kind of thing. If he can't get over here and asked me to come and collect it I could with no bother.

I was thinking the same thing.

Write it off matey.. Break contact with him and next time he contacts you tell him in no uncertain terms that you feel disrespected by him over this.

Thinking that is the play. Couple more attempts even though I'm fairly certain he won't budge then off he goes.

Highly likely he's sold it on by the sounds of it. The friendship is screwed, so either go in hard and tell him you expect either a replacement or £200 within the next 14 days or you'll take matters further. You can say police if you like, but he might find that amusing.

Either that, or just forget about it. If you didn't need it in 2yrs then you're probably alright without it. Expensive mistake, but hey.

Nah wouldn't bother threatening the police lol, we know eachother better than that plus they'd be useless. Thing is I want it back for Sun & Moon haha, but £200 isn't much of a price to find out what somebody is really like, I'd pay a lot more to do that with people I've known for a lot less time.
 
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I was rather foolish when I was a young'un and lent someone I worked with £250. It was the first proper job I had. That was 19 years ago. Never got it back, however I charge £5 per day interest. The guy now owes me just shy of £35,000.

I'd love to bump into him one day.
 
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for another day or two then force the truth out of him, just incase there's nothing going on. If a 12 odd year friendship is worth £200 to him then good riddance.

Cheers.
 
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From the other perspective, someone he's known for over a decade is making a massive fuss over some electronics from several years ago.
 
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