Do you ever get wound up by knowledge you think people should have?

I get wound up by people who are training me but I know full well they are training me wrong. When I point it out they say "I didn't know that". Like using excel and they don't know how to use absolute values so every time they copy stuff it gives wrong figures and no one questions it....
 
It's for another subject but, my mother's it skills.

She has used Facebook for 8 years now, farmville and countless other retarded browser games. She is a tycoon on these things. Colour organised the entire plantation, efficiently stores and sends emails and requests to her fb friends, as you do in these games, daily. Shes mindblowingly efficient.

Ask her to mimic these same skills on a windows desktop, she will literally give up in tears, when it comes to left or right click? Double click to open something? No pull the wire put of the laptop, make it stop.
How she can not transfer her skills from one computer environment to another "identical" one I just cannot fathom.
 
No, because it's not worth it. There's loads of stuff that would be very simple for other people that I can't do, so I'm not going to judge anyone else for it. Cars, for instance - I've been driven around in them, even driven one myself a few times, but if you asked me to do even the most basic of jobs on it, I'd be totally lost, and not want to poke around in case I break something.

I do get annoyed by unnecessary bureaucracy and poorly designed systems, but not at the people tasked with running them.
 
Feef said:
No, because it's not worth it. There's loads of stuff that would be very simple for other people that I can't do, so I'm not going to judge anyone else for it. Cars, for instance - I've been driven around in them, even driven one myself a few times, but if you asked me to do even the most basic of jobs on it, I'd be totally lost, and not want to poke around in case I break something.
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That is an illogical example, because fixing cars requires some kind of mechanical skill that, while not always complex, is not purely common sense, that's why we hire people to service them. Common sense would be not putting diesel in a petrol car, or setting off in 4th gear.
 
Steve_bullockuk said:
People who set the climate control at 30.0c in winter from a cold start thinking they will get warmer quicker. It really gets me.
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I have pointed this out to my other half so many times! I set the car to auto fan speed and tell her to pick a temperature and the fans will ramp up accordingly.

Get in the car a day later... temp on max, fans set to max (manual). :(
 
Richdog said:
That is an illogical example, because fixing cars requires some kind of mechanical skill that, while not always complex, is not purely common sense, that's why we hire people to service them. Common sense would be not putting diesel in a petrol car, or setting off in 4th gear.
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It seems to mirror many of the examples of people getting frustrated in this thread at computer users. I'm not talking about fixing a car, I mean checking the oil or whatever it is you do, I'd run away from it.
 
Feef said:
No, because it's not worth it. There's loads of stuff that would be very simple for other people that I can't do, so I'm not going to judge anyone else for it. Cars, for instance - I've been driven around in them, even driven one myself a few times, but if you asked me to do even the most basic of jobs on it, I'd be totally lost, and not want to poke around in case I break something.

I do get annoyed by unnecessary bureaucracy and poorly designed systems, but not at the people tasked with running them.
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But if your profession is mechanic you should know about cars....

In my job the profession was using various excel spreadsheets to do planning etc.... I was an agency worker, I ended up formulating lots to turn 5hr jobs into 5min jobs (Keep It Simple Stupid approach). They wouldn't allow me to change certain things until the immortal words "can you set up all of next year's files please?" Pleasant but frustrating people. They simply struggled to use excel and the one who was 'untouchable' as was the only one who knew about this one job... I ended up teaching him!!! Bearing in mind I was a minimum wage agency worker.... I left that job other day and they complained I only gave them 6 days notice.... They should be grateful I didn't just not turn up like all the other agency workers....
 
Sure, but once again, this thread is not about people being inept at their jobs, it's about being annoyed at people for not being able to do stuff that you think should be straightforward, in everyday life. The former I get, and have experienced, but the latter isn't worth getting worked up about.
 
Happens to me all the time and I have trained my mind to ignore it but occasionally I go all Sheldon on them when I expect someone to know something.

Example, I install some new hard drives in a server and then call the remote SD in Manilla, the girl who takes the call then says she cannot see the new drives in the server. I ask her how she is looking for them and she says in device manager. No idea that she had to configure them in Dell server manager or through the idrac. Wasted me an extra hour onsite.
 
I work for the NHS in a department where I'm the only male surrounded by 27 of the least tech savvy ladies the world has ever known. I'm talking people who still haven't quite grasped the idea of copy+paste.

Thankfully they do predominantly hands on work but still... I can't believe that in this day and age there's people out there with no knowledge of how to do the most basic of tasks on a computer.
 
EVH said:
I have pointed this out to my other half so many times! I set the car to auto fan speed and tell her to pick a temperature and the fans will ramp up accordingly.

Get in the car a day later... temp on max, fans set to max (manual). :(
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The amount of people who do this is incredible.

*gets into cold car*
*puts fans on full blast*
*heat on full*
*pumps car full of cold air*

sigh...

GF used to do it, I showed her why its pointless and just leave it on auto. The car is smart enough to know when the air is hot and will pump it out when it is. Shes learned! phew!
 
DrToffnar said:
I work for the NHS in a department where I'm the only male surrounded by 27 of the least tech savvy ladies the world has ever known. I'm talking people who still haven't quite grasped the idea of copy+paste.
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I had a job in the NHS actually teaching nurses to use PCs.
Understandable, because while I may work on computers all day, they work on humans and have never needed to touch a keyboard. Even using a pen is quicker than typing, especially since anything on PC still had to be printed, written on and then signed.
 
Feef said:
Sure, but once again, this thread is not about people being inept at their jobs, it's about being annoyed at people for not being able to do stuff that you think should be straightforward, in everyday life. The former I get, and have experienced, but the latter isn't worth getting worked up about.
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"Do you ever get wound up by knowledge you think people should have?"

I think an IT department should have the knowledge to be able to do basic IT tasks instead of escalating it to 3rd line. When the requests start flooding in because of their incompetance it really winds me up, especially if they chase it after 30 minutes when their SLA is 4 hours. It drags me off other more important jobs that need doing.
 
Phate said:
The amount of people who do this is incredible.

*gets into cold car*
*puts fans on full blast*
*heat on full*
*pumps car full of cold air*

sigh...

GF used to do it, I showed her why its pointless and just leave it on auto. The car is smart enough to know when the air is hot and will pump it out when it is. Shes learned! phew!
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My mrs hasn't learned it despite being shown many, many times how CC works.
 
Rilot said:
My mrs hasn't learned it despite being shown many, many times how CC works.
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Does every car have Climate Control, though?
Isn't there also something about cold air absorbing moisture better than warm, so better for clearing the windscreen first thing in the morning?

Then again, until I took my test I didn't twig that cars no longer have a choke.
 
ttaskmaster said:
Isn't there also something about cold air absorbing moisture better than warm, so better for clearing the windscreen first thing in the morning?
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Nope, nothing like that.
Warm air will hold more moisture, cold air, against a cold windscreen will lead to an increased rate of condensation, as the air deposits what moisture it did hold as it cools further against a colder windscreen.

In theory if you had 100% moist air that was hot and cold and blasted it over the same cold surface you might get more condensation out of the hot air against the cold surface, if the air was fully cooled, but in practice this isn't what is happening.
 
Hyburnate said:
What you're forgetting is, not everybody is IT literate, these people earning substantial wages probably (and I hope) have some serious skills in other areas which also means 9/10 they can delegate a task such as logging into a website to check something..
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They can talk to people, that's it, and the majority aren't very good at selling either but they've paid their £200 for their course and seem to believe that's enough.

With the financial advisors, yes, they have a lot of knowledge, but in this day and age, not knowing what a browser is, how to use one, how to send email, basically means you're a retard! These are basic skills, the same as writing, reading, tieing your shoes. However, when one of them phones me and says "my laptop can't connect to the internet can you connect to it and fix it", and then I point out I can't because they have no internet, only for them to phone my boss and complain I'm being unhelpful I believe I am justified in my beliefs they are idiots.

I wouldn't expect them to troubleshoot a printer that can't be installed because the driver is no longer available but was working fine 2 days ago.

Although, i must laugh at the notion of someone so rich thay they sit back and tell Jeeves to log in to facebook for them and check what Lord so and so is up to :D
 
enigma27 said:
People do this at work with lifts... really grates my pee.. they think if they press the call button 100 times the lift will come faster.
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It's because they have an audience. If you are the person by the button, you feel pressured to keep spamming it as if to say "I GOT THIS FOLKS!"

Same goes for getting off the train, person by the door will hammer the button to make it clear they aren't delaying fellow passengers unnecessarily.
 
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