Apple to Introduce New Macs at October 27 Event

ceaton88 said:
How much RAM are you after m8?

But seriously, I'm gonna pick up a 2015 MBP on student discount this Thursday after work, I've decided. I'll use it for a week and if its not right, it will simply just go back. It will cost me £1,300 and I've been having a battle in my head about the 2015 vs. 2016 for a while now.

I've decided since this is my first MB and I'm not upgrading from anything, it would be silly not to go for the latest tech which is smaller, faster and has a better display.

I'm also going to pick one up for the other half who needs it more for her video editing, so we will be able to make good use and share one of these:

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Well, the maximum it can hold is 16G so 16G it is. I will always have more if I can. "more than 16G is not much difference" may hold true now, but i remember when 16mb of Ram was plenty. File size gets larger, texture files gets larger, everything just gets larger and more RAM is always better.

Before i even turn on my iMac, first thing i did out of the box is to install more RAM, then again, we are talking about self install so much cheaper.

Anyway. with the dongle, i plan to get one of those but the one that plugs in with and also a Griffin BreakSafe Magnetic USB-C Power Cable.

Since it charge through, it will detach if i trip it and I still have 2 more USB-C the other side should I need it, have SD card slot and regular USB slots.

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^ all well and good if you place your laptop on a flat surface. Try using that on your lap and it'll be putting extra tension on the ports... hell, my magsafe connector bends if I've got my MBP resting the wrong way on my lap.. I'd never had one of those just incase I moved and caught the dongle on something.

Seriously, one wrong move and it's goodbye dongle, goodbye ports :eek:

Back on point: getting rid of the ports so users can replace lost functionality with dongles is the scummiest move ever. I could understand it if they went from old 2010 sizing to MB air sizing and called it a design choice. Sort of a "lets make one SKU that is powerful and thin" but the size has barely changed for the last 3 generations and they've lost so many ports that it is comical. HDMI, ethernet, magsafe, SD card slot, thunderbolt. Next year probably the 3.5mm jack too!

I'm waiting for the joke but the more I look at it the angrier I get and I'm not even in the market for a new machine. I suppose it's because I've always banked on getting a decent MBP but the current lineup is gimped unless you have all USB-C devices or are willing to have extra cables hanging off it. Hopefully it's a stepping stone move but how many ports are they going to condense it down to before someone speaks out?
 
Raymond Lin said:
I never use my laptop on my lap, it's always on a flat surface, it'll be fine...
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This. Using a laptop on your lap with a ton of devices plugged in doesn't seem the best way to go about things. Browsing, watching stuff, fine, but plugging in a whole bunch of other things seems best done on a hard flat surface.

Back on the ports. Most users won't need dongles. If they've got old devices they'll just need a new cable. All my devices bought over the past few months have a type-c cable.
 
englishpremier said:
This. Using a laptop on your lap with a ton of devices plugged in doesn't seem the best way to go about things. Browsing, watching stuff, fine, but plugging in a whole bunch of other things seems best done on a hard flat surface.

Back on the ports. Most users won't need dongles. If they've got old devices they'll just need a new cable. All my devices bought over the past few months have a type-c cable.
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At the moment I can slip in a SD card (rare admittedly), plug my phone in, a USB drive or two (work), the magsafe power connector and have nothing really hanging off the machine beside a phone. I'd call that typical use for most people. Define "best way to go about things" if not doing this on your lap? Should we be expected to have to use a laptop on a hard surface just to accommodate extra guff they used to build in?

The new MBP would require me to buy a hub for the SD card, a dongle or new USB-C drives (out of my control as they're work issue). Not to mention a new lead for the iPhone... where do you stop? How much does all that cost? For a £2300 machine, this sort of nonsense is a thing I'd expect from Apple circa John Sculley days, not 2016.

The fact of the matter is they've released a device with cutting edge USB-C (great!) but compromised so much on removing "legacy tech" that an average user will get it out of the box and have nothing to connect to it. If you have all the latest USB-C stuff, carry on.. if you want to use it on a surface, carry on... not even their own phone works out of the box ffs! :eek::(
 
Apple do appear to be making similar mistakes as in the '90s.

The focus that Jobs gave them was incredible.

I'm slowly, one by one, moving away from Apple products as their value (to me) does not justify the price. Started with the iPhone, as I can pick up an Android device equal or better for half the price, and as it stands my next laptop would be a Windows machine. Still hooked on the iPad though, having purchased a 9.7" 128GB Pro last month. Ridiculous price, but I'm yet to find an alternative tablet that is as good.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Just need one of these.

http://www.apple.com/uk/shop/produc...os-uk-kwgo-pla-btb-slid--product-MK0X2ZM/A-UK

£19.00 please.
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I'm aware of that. Not sure how that counters my point though as it doesn't come in the box of either device? What about the USB sticks that I have to use. Buy new. The SD card I use now and again. Buy a dongle. I've got a DSLR, how will I connect? Buy a new cable. :p

Fair enough if they'd switched the iPhone to USB C but £19 extra for a cable? Give over, it's a £2000 laptop. All because they decided to remove every other standard port except the new standard. That's not going to cause issues at all... oh, wait....

I'm holding out hope that they switch the iPhone to USB C and see some sense.
 
ceaton88 said:
How much RAM are you after m8?

But seriously, I'm gonna pick up a 2015 MBP on student discount this Thursday after work, I've decided. I'll use it for a week and if its not right, it will simply just go back. It will cost me £1,300 and I've been having a battle in my head about the 2015 vs. 2016 for a while now.
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Where from? Apple's refurbishment store?
 
This is a pretty interesting video re: performance, indicating that the circulated benchmarks aren't representative...

Sorry, I can't seem to successfully embed it.

** Fixed the embed for you. Have a look at the post to see how - EVH **


As a side point, I've ordered a 2016 13" with touchbar and 16gig ram, perhaps proving I have more money than sense but we shall see :p
 
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Good review, it misses the most important of points though. The Pro choosing Mac"Pro" in 2016 pays over £750 premium plus dongles vs the outgoing model. There is literally a MacBook Air worth of difference somewhere in those magical oozb-see ports that don't match anything on your table.
Any Pro would have to make a serious dough out of his emoji filled youtube scrolling to not feel the impact of it, and we can't blame Nigel Farage for the entire sum either.
 
Saw someone on the train today, who was just your every day uni student which is basically Apple's target market these days.

They had their iPhone 5s plugged into their retina Macbook Pro via USB charging and listening to music on their wired headphones. I just chuckled to myself, not any more!
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Saw someone on the train today, who was just your every day uni student which is basically Apple's target market these days.

They had their iPhone 5s plugged into their retina Macbook Pro via USB charging and listening to music on their wired headphones. I just chuckled to myself, not any more!
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Apple are targeting the student but not with the price. how can a student afford a £2000 mac.

Apple going back to the 90s
 
Apple are OK as long as the iPhone sales keep up. It's the success of the iPhone which has let them get complacent on the desktop front.
 
Apple has absolutely ZERO interest in the pro market now - that's not what they are about, it makes no sense for them to make seriously powerfully great machines, it won't make them much money - they are a high end tech fashion business now - im 99% sure eventually they will only sell items akin to iphones and ipads in the future (hence ipad pro etc) - once we can do on ipad like devices faster and as with as good flexibility as 'pro' laptops - they will ditch laptops.

They are waiting for the world to get used to not having laptops essentially - a tiny step towards this is a touch bar - a fraction of an ipad if you will.

It's sad as OSX is so so good, but they are very unlikely to make any pro spec desktop pro machines again - I think they will do one more personally, then eventually blend their imacs in to 'super ipads' when they think its ready (basically like the microsoft touch screen thing thats available now but slicker)

Just my 2p - apples target audience isnt pros any more - they just use the pro word as a sales tool, the new macbook pros are not really pro machines in specs (ONLY the very highest end model is REASONABLE - even then its GPU is rubbish compared to what they could have done if they wanted a REAL pro spec machine - hell it will still be a hard buy at £4000 if it DID have a 1080GTX in it)

Just my thoughts.
 
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