Poll: Investigatory Powers Bill or "Snoopers' Charter" has been approved

Are you happy with the investigatory powers bill being passed?

  • Yes, I fully agree with it.

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Yes, but I am uncomfortable with certain aspects of it.

    Votes: 31 5.5%
  • I am undecided.

    Votes: 27 4.8%
  • No, but I do agree with parts of it.

    Votes: 103 18.2%
  • No, I fully disagree with it.

    Votes: 391 69.1%

  • Total voters
    566
It's a sad sign of the times that the high court holding the government to the rule of the law and proper process with regards to Article 50 sparks such outrage, yet here we are with one of the most invasive pieces of legislation ever envisioned passing both houses and most people don't seem to care.

People in this country can be so pathetic.
 
And within a week every child in every senior school in the country will know how to bypass it...

Alternatively we could just grow up as a society and have a sensible attitude to sex and nudity...
 
Lets be honest the chances of catching anyone worth caring about via bulk collection is likely to be next to none.

Me writing "bomb" in this post would potentially flag it for review by a human. I've just wasted that humans time. How many millions of emails are going to be flagged for completely innocuous keywords which further waste time.

There is no way bulk collection can be more efficient than targetted collection.

You underestimate the power/methods of data mining. Writing the word bomb is in no way going to flag anything. The entire web page/email is analysed. The tracking/identification of the word "bomb" is not absolute, the word "bomb" is 100% meaningless and worthless - I cannot stress how meaningless a single word is.

What is meaningful is how every single word is relative to every other word on this page. If if the algorithm also identifies, for example, the name of any building you go to when you go on holiday, then the computed probability assessment would go absolutely through the roof. But then there are also thousands of other words on this page which can feed the algorithm with a little more context for it to know that the chance of any funny business getting planned through this web page is pretty much zero.

The data sets populated through EPSIS are probably the biggest and most valuable data sets in history, by a humongous margin. It's not about trawling webpages and emails for keywords like "bomb" I don't know maybe the government has it's own web crawler, but that's not what snooping is, the aim of snooping is to collect psycho-social data, not mere keywords.

The main difference between governmental data sets and Google/FB/etc data sets is that people sign in to use Google services, and the government needs to do its collection under the guise/charade of public safety.

It's not as simple as looking for needle in a haystack of data, you use the entire data set to remove all the hay. Computational knowledge discovery, pattern recognition, anomaly detection.
 
Well broadband prices are going to go up :(.

Iirc each site blocked costs around £3k per year maintenance costs which will get passed down to us :(.
 
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The power of big data is amazing. It helps find patterns you weren't looking for or didn't even know exhisted.

With the leaks from Edward Snowden, isn't it true the government are doing this sort of thing in tandem with the NSA anyway?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/prism-slides-nsa-document

Yeah, they've been doing it for years anyway. It's just people are becoming more aware so they need be seen to legitimise it through the investigatory powers bill.
 
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