Yes, political repression is certainly bad - not disputing that. However, the average Cuban couldn't give a damn, as most people couldn't give a damn about politics. The fact remains is the average Cuban is far better off than the average Haitian, they enjoy very little outgoings, excellent healthcare, free utilities.
Former Cuba leader Fidel Castro dead aged 90
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Yes, political repression is certainly bad - not disputing that. However, the average Cuban couldn't give a damn, as most people couldn't give a damn about politics. The fact remains is the average Cuban is far better off than the average Haitian, they enjoy very little outgoings, excellent healthcare, free utilities.
So hitler is good?
Trust you to invoke Godwin's law.
They didn't care until Pearl Harbor and even then it was mostly political.
The Ideology battle was just a ruse, they were far more interested in economic power.
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He was... Because without him we would never have killed Hitler...
Yes this is a joke. No need to be triggered
Which doesnt change the point that because hitler was hated by the average americsn that he must be good by that logic
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Just because one autocrat produces better doctors than the other doesn't make him a saint. Castro chose the path of violence and insurrection; he died without achieving his ideals. History will remember him, but I don't think he made as much history as some would like to believe. The ends do not justify the means.
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RIP one of my personal and political inspirations.
Like the US (i would have used the UK, but we never really cared for this like the US has in the last half a century) where the end is "democracy" and the means are violence and insurrection.
Oh my, what a shame.
Yep thats bad too.
You seem to be operating under some bizare cobdion where thibking castro is bad means somone must agree 100% with us forgien policy
I'm just saying that some perspective is required before calling out people on their evils.
What saved him was the death of his strongarm ruthless Stalin-like figure (Che) and American embargo. Fidel was well on the way to become typical nuclear weapon wielding, mass murdering a-hole with delusions of grandeur and his own Stazi/KGB like apparatus of terror, but Bolivians betraying and killing his chief of internal trepidation and then decades of being marginalised by the first world countries forced him to play "good commie" cards, rather than trying to scare the world into submission.
He deserved the farewell of Nicolae Ceausescu, for keeping several millions of people under the dome of 1960ies third world utopian collective dictatorship complete with hereditary rules of command for half a millennium past its selling date, but oh well - can't have it all in my lifetime. I hope the nation will rise once again and the remaining Castro's will spend the rest of their lives at Kim Jong's.
That's akin to saying having just one broken leg is better than two. Neither are good...
Careful, you'll trigger the anti-westerners on here in to having him put up for sainthood too!
Raul retires in 2018. Next in line is General Álvaro López Miera of course, the youngest of the left over revolution soldiers (was 14 when he met Fidel, will be 75 in 2018).
I suspect a free Cuba would go the way of the rest of Central America or South America. Freedom is a tough cookie to swallow, the Western World required hundreds of years and millions of deaths to find a system that allows it and the cultures which adopted it at a fast pace (Japan, South Korea) have a tradition of submissiveness to authority and good work ethic, concepts which are alien in the Latino World at the moment.
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And who blockaded them for 50 years?
Who financed the Bay of Pigs?
Whose agent blew up that plane from Havana?
Actually it was the American backed Batista regime that kept ordinary Cubans in poverty. Do look at some history not just read the s*** in the Daily Sieg. Cubans came out of absolute poverty and had a health service at least as good as America at an 80th of the cost.