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Carl contrives the stupidest assassination plan ever, somehow all 8 bad guys decide not to shoot him when he's stood on the back of the van, then he doesn't bother shooting Negan when he casually walks in front of his machine gun... :rolleyes:

Yep they've had tens of opportunities to kill Negan and every time conspire to keep him alive for the sake of prolonging the story.

It comes across like they're trying too hard to follow the direction of the comic even though some of the characters actions and scenes make little sense if it were reality.
 
Yes they have had a ton of opportunities to kill Negan i.e. their best opportunity was when Negan came to their place for the first time but look at the big picture....

- they don't have anywhere near the numbers to take on Negan and his army, at least not yet...
- they take Negan out, someone else from his army will take over, as was said by the girl group living by the sea, he has hundreds of people and I'm sure he has an inner group along with his right hand man (Trevor from GTA 5) that will finish Rick's group off should anything happen to Negan
- they have Daryl as prisoner still, they try something, he will be the one to suffer, iirc, didn't Negan say something in the first episode that if they tried anything, they would send back pieces of Daryl
EDIT: - also, Daryl won't be the only one to suffer, others will get their head bashed in or worse if they tried anything, like what happened to every boy over 10 at the women's group Tara encountered

In the comics, Negan is extremely smart, probably smarter than anyone else on the show and we might just see the full extent of this in the next episode and possibly be the start of "all out war"
 
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Epic episode on Monday, absolutely superb. I really want to hate Negan but he is just a superb character, his scenes are brilliant

Someone is getting Lucile to the head next week, the look on Ricks face at the end of the preview...

I wonder what Negan does with Judith too, I hope he doesn't take her :(
 
Epic episode on Monday, absolutely superb. I really want to hate Negan but he is just a superb character, his scenes are brilliant

Someone is getting Lucile to the head next week, the look on Ricks face at the end of the preview...

I wonder what Negan does with Judith too, I hope he doesn't take her :(

I was thinking that he might kill Judith as I remember a while ago before season 7 premiered that Rick and the other cast members said episode 1 was tame to what happens later on in the season, so much that him and others didn't want to show up to shoot the scenes :eek: Can't think of what else would make the cast that upset.... But then again, in the comics, Negan likes kids and even for the TWD that would be too far I think although they have killed of children before and some in a pretty gruesome fashion to say the least....

At first I thought it might be Spencer but there is no way Rick would get that upset over him so I am expecting someone closer to Rick to lucilled... Of course, there is always the possibility that Negan could take Judith back with him and this could be why Rick has that mortified look on his face.
 
I don't think they could kill Judith, it would just be too much. There's a lot of things people can tolerate, but I think seeing a toddler get mauled and beaten to death would just be too much for most people. I'm not sure I could hack it :(

I'm thinking he'll take her, there's been a couple of references in previous episodes that Negan is shooting blanks, so maybe he'll want to take Judith on that basis.
 
After going to the trouble of smuggling himself in the back of the truck, Carl not taking the shot just wasn't credible. It would have been far more believable if once Negan had his little speech whilst Carl was aiming at him you saw Carl's resolve harden and him take the shot only for his gun to be knocked away by Dwight (or similar). Now THAT would have shown Negan Carl was badass.

I got to admit when Negan was talking to the larger Alexandrian lady about her being starving ("You...Really") I chuckled hard at the way he delivered his lines.
 
Yeah he's such a good actor, I would normally despise a character like Negan but the way he's portrayed, it's hard not to like him
 
Getting quite bored with this season. I usually do the TWD, so I stop watching and then binge it once it's all aired.
 
Judith should be long since dead per the comics, so she's arguably "disposable". Likewise Daryl wasn't even in the comics so he could go at any time - I even wondered whether he'd go in the first episode of the series.

It is quite a rare thing for kids to get killed, but it's not totally unprecedented - Caprica Six killed a child in BSG, for example. You'd be unlikely to see much of it, but it could happen out of sight. I doubt they will do it, though, for other wider plot related reasons. It's one of those things though, isn't it, violence against kids is frowned on in spite of any other horrible violence. Given the wailing about Negan's killings in episode one I think a lot of viewers wouldn't have the stomach for it.

Just thinking of that sort of inconsistency, it made me laugh that Negan's wives were all in fairly sensible dresses, but in the comics they're all in lingerie. Unfettered violence, fine, swearing or suggestive clothing, hell no!
 
Gale Hurd one of the directors; said on the talking dead that carl didnt want to shoot negan because he might of hit one of the henchmen and carl is still 'good inside' so this is why he didnt take the shot ...

He'd already shot one inside the van, then another when he rushed him... so that's kind of out the window as a reason?!
 
He'd already shot one inside the van, then another when he rushed him... so that's kind of out the window as a reason?!

ya ... well thats what she said given the reason why he didnt spay and pray and just unload on negan when he was 'close' to one of the saviors but not in the open. Didnt make sense to me either ...
 
I always thought it was a little strange in episode 2? where Rick made the announcement to Michonne that he knew that Judith wasnt his and was in fact Shane's.

Was Shane the biological father of Judith in the comics???? I dont know.

With the Judith announcement I kept on thinking that this made her expendable.

I am not sure how much more Rick can take as a character.

1)Wife slept with his best friend
2)Killed his best friend
3)Judith not his
4)Wife killed by his son
5)Son had eye blown out
6)The episode 1 guilt issue with Negan

Christ!
 
Enjoy TWD even the "filler" episodes but I just don't find the whole Negan plotline terribly plausible. JDM does a great job of portraying the character, he does have the look of a man who is properly cruel and unhinged, but the whole idea that he's surrounded by 100's of followers that hate him but are somehow to afraid to do anything about it is not really believable, no matter how much of a psychopath he is.

Yet it's a given that at some point one of them will do something about it. To begin with I thought it would be one of Rick's motley crew but now new players have entered the game. I guess Negan's death may be a vehicle for bolstering the numbers in Ricks merry band again.

I realise that the whole series is derived from an illustrated novel as such, but "Negan" is just to OTT of a comic book character for my taste. I guess as the story unfolds we may have more insight into how he becomes the man he is.

Still look forwards to watching it week on week.:)
 
I feel like that, it's all well and good Negan being a bad ass.. but even his right hand man would like to kill him. I don't get it, how hasn't someone just put a bullet in him (Even Karl of all people couldn't do it, and he's a little psycho) I'm struggling with it myself.
 
I guess people prefer to live under Negan with all that brings rather than survive on their own. On their own I think they feel they don't stand a chance to survive.
 
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