RMT to ballot for strike action.

do_ron_ron said:
According to UK Fox newspaper. Wonder if he actually said it or it is just the usual Murdoch made up story.
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Doesn't matter if it's true or not, the public, who I suspect are not wildly supportive of strike action, now think he said that.
 
do_ron_ron said:
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Full House.

The Social Contract was another tool to try to combat inflation, a forerunner of Osborne's 'we are all in this together' and like Osborne's version it was seen as being biased against the workers.

The Social Contract was one tool so the link between the Social Contract and 24% inflation as you seem to be implying is tenuous at best.

I was not a shop steward.
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wrong wrong and wrong - amazing

the social contract was a deal made between the labour government and the unions ; in return to repealing the industrial relations act (1971) providing food subsidies and freeze on rent they wanted the unions to have voluntary wage restraint which of course that didn't happen at all.

Do you sing `The Red Flag` before bed at night?
 
Orionaut said:
In the 70's voting for strike action was typically done by "Show of Hands"

And woe betide anybody who voted the wrong way.

"Show of hands" is a very effective way of allowing a militant minority to intimidate and dominate a compliant and reluctant majority.
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Typical Sun type BS. I happen to know from personal experience in a totally unionised place, enforced by the management for it's own purposes, two strike calls that were rejected with a lot of verbal against the shop stewards. I also know from talking to guys who were shop stewards of the difficulty of getting people to go on strike.



One of the issues surrounding the 1984 miners strike was how the changes in law as to how strikes were called resulted in many pits remaining open because the miners didn't actually want to strike after all..
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This is the fairy story of how Scargill called the miners out on strike. The miners were in autonomous regions and guarded their independence vigorously. Scargill could not tell the Scottish miners what to do for example.

The National Union of Mineworkers is a unique organisation in that it still has a federal structure, which is comprised of area unions covering the length and breadth of Britain.
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Each area being independent could decide what they wanted to do.

In some areas of the country such as Nottinghamshire miners did not join the strike.
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Shame facts get in the way of political bias.
 
do_ron_ron said:
Typical Sun type BS. I happen to know from personal experience in a totally unionised place, enforced by the management for it's own purposes, two strike calls that were rejected with a lot of verbal against the shop stewards. I also know from talking to guys who were shop stewards of the difficulty of getting people to go on strike.





This is the fairy story of how Scargill called the miners out on strike. The miners were in autonomous regions and guarded their independence vigorously. Scargill could not tell the Scottish miners what to do for example.



Each area being independent could decide what they wanted to do.



Shame facts get in the way of political bias.
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yes it is a shame FACTS gets in the way of virulent diatribe , as you have just proven!
 
Harlequin said:
wrong wrong and wrong - amazing

the social contract was a deal made between the labour government and the unions ; in return to repealing the industrial relations act (1971) providing food subsidies and freeze on rent they wanted the unions to have voluntary wage restraint which of course that didn't happen at all.

Do you sing `The Red Flag` before bed at night?
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Again this is the members showing their Union heads that they would not do as they wanted. The members did not like the deal, the union heads may have but any union is its members.

You will have to sing it for me as I do not know the words.
 
Here we go again:

Tube station staff in the RMT and TSSA unions are planning to strike for 24 hours from 18:00 on Sunday 8 January. If the strike goes ahead services will be severely disrupted from Sunday evening until the end of service on Monday 9 January.

Key points

The strike is by station staff, which means many Tube stations may not open at all, particularly in Zone 1
Those that do open are likely to open later and close earlier than usual
It will only be possible for us to run severely restricted underground services
We will run the best service possible depending on how many employees are available
We expect normal services to resume by the morning of Tuesday 10 January

Travel advice

On Monday 9 January, for the whole day, we anticipate:
The majority of Underground stations in Zone 1 will be closed
We will run a limited service on the District, Circle and Hammersmith and City lines, although trains will not stop at all stations
Although National Rail services will not be affected by this strike there will be no Underground services from key interchange stations such as Victoria, King's Cross, Waterloo, Paddington, Euston, Bank and London Bridge
We will run shuttle services wherever possible at the end of lines from approximately 0700-1900
We expect no service on:
the whole of the Victoria line
the North Acton to West Ruislip branch of the Central line
the Waterloo and City line
the Piccadilly line serving Heathrow terminals 4 & 5
Expect much busier buses in central London, particularly on routes offering onward travel from National Rail stations, and more road congestion
Please allow more time for your travel and avoid travelling in the peaks if possible
Depending on the journey you are making, other travel options during the Tube strike could include:
Buses - maps by area of London (or local Tube station)
Walking - times between Tube stations
Cycling - live cycle hire docking station information
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https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-strike?intcmp=35779

Can't be bothered to find out what it is they're striking about this time because it's bound to be the usual pile of poo. You have been warned.
 
It's to do with the closure of the ticket offices. They're striking because of potential safety issues to do with that and that Khan hasn't reopened any of the closed ticket offices.

Not aware of any safety issues that actually arose from closing the ticket offices, but hey... they're just shining wits who'll strike if someone farts outside the station.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Do they have any kind of sympathy anymore from anyone?
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Not really, 90% of their jobs are going in the next decade and everyone knows it.

All they're doing it trying to squeeze every penny possible from the government before they finally given the heave-ho
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Do they have any kind of sympathy anymore from anyone?
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Occasionally, and mainly from people outside London who don't have to use their complete shambles of a service.

I frequently have to use them and yeah... they're dreadful. Other half has to use them every day and her commute is normally an hour each way, but has been known to reach 3 hours.

It's even more fun when someone throws themselves under the train outside Kings Cross. There's been a couple of occasions where she's ended up in a hotel overnight and nipped to Oxford St to buy some more clothes for the next day.
 
robgmun said:
Not really, 90% of their jobs are going in the next decade and everyone knows it.

All they're doing it trying to squeeze every penny possible from the government before they finally given the heave-ho
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This. Go to Singapore or somewhere with a new transport system and there isn't a single member of staff. And you know what, it runs beautifully.
 
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