Death/Dying
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That's the paradox of existence, we think we are alive when we are born and we think we dead when we depart.
But who knows what is before life per say or what is after death?
We don't come from nothing so therefor we don't depart to nothing.
Strange stuff that's for sure.
It's well understood where we come from. Only the religious beg to differ.
You can only die once because you only have one life. Are you trolling me? Seriously, this isn't rocket science it's simple logic.
So how can you be dead before you're born? You live life then at end of life you die and that's death. So you had been conceived, lived, existed and died. If you were never conceived how would you be dead since you never existed to begin with?
Are you suggesting that life exists before birth? Because that's how you are coming across. If so, this conversation is over as I have better things to do with my time.
Might want to read a bit better then. You're the one insisting that until someone is born they are dead, which is exactly what that Mark Twain quote says. So going by what that said he was dead for billions of years, so was his birth a Resurrection since you need to have lived to die and be dead in the first place?
You're alive from the moment you are conceived and dead from before. It's simple and true. Argue against this simple premise and be ridiculed.
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No that doesn't make sense. Is your great great grand daughter dead? No she doesn't exist (yet) Mark Twain is wrong, should be 'I haven't existed for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.'
You're alive from the moment you are conceived and dead from before. It's simple and true. Argue against this simple premise and be ridiculed.
Pish
If you don't exist its not the same as being dead, that's like saying my unborn children are currently dead since there's been no conception.
Can't reason with the unreasonable I'm out. Have a good evening gents.
In the meantime i'll be drawing up a shortlist of possible names for my Un-conceived, Un-born, Dead kids...
Is that empirical or just a theory based observation?
Theory I guess you'd have to say but like you said there's a lot we don't know, thankfully it means we can continue to make further discoveries.
Bottom line is, you find out when you die! (But no one has come back to report).
Anecdotally, my mother was a devout catholic (I'm a devout agnostic) but even she reported after her first heart attack when she was technically dead for a short time, a descending blackness to a pinpoint of light (like an old tube TV going off) and nothing else.
Again what lies beyond that is an unknown but my view is, let people take comfort from what they believe. Kudos to the mods for ensuring the resident keyboard warriors don't have free reign to stamp on those who *do* have different beliefs.
Anecdotally, my mother was a devout catholic (I'm a devout agnostic) but even she reported after her first heart attack when she was technically dead for a short time, a descending blackness to a pinpoint of light (like an old tube TV going off) and nothing else.
Again what lies beyond that is an unknown but my view is, let people take comfort from what they believe. Kudos to the mods for ensuring the resident keyboard warriors don't have free reign to stamp on those who *do* have different beliefs.
How can you be a devout agnostic when agnosticism is in itself a state of uncertainty?
It was tongue in cheek. (Or was that one foot in the grave..?).
Too many keyboard lawyers around here ATM, nitpicking the slightest misplaced word or phrase.
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On the other side of things, do you really want to live forever isnt one life time enough?
I was diagnosed with Cancer last year and thankfully am in remission, at that point death becomes a distinct reality and the only thing I wanted or wished for that It if I were to die, it would not be a long and painful experience and that my family would be spared the pain and anguish of me slowly slipping away powerless to do anything and that they would remember me of how I was before the illness and not after as those images can last a lifetime.
I was diagnosed with Cancer last year and thankfully am in remission, at that point death becomes a distinct reality and the only thing I wanted or wished for that It if I were to die, it would not be a long and painful experience and that my family would be spared the pain and anguish of me slowly slipping away powerless to do anything and that they would remember me of how I was before the illness and not after as those images can last a lifetime.