Truck crashes into Christmas market in Berlin

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Tummy said:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Not to mention, did Moses not tell his followers to kill the non believers in the name of god too.

'cause Christianity never calls for the death of non believers, to say nothing of killing sinners.
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Yeah except the Bible is almost entirely contradictory. You have all of this and then you have Jesus saying love everyone.

The qu'ran is a bit more straight forward.
 
FishFluff said:
and 0.00000001% of Muslims are terrorists. What's your point?

No one is defending terrorists.
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Your number isn't correct.... ~1,700,000,000 Muslims x 0.00000001% = 0.17 people.

And I only comment on numbers not to the real issue here....
 
robfosters said:
May have done in the past but luckily we're intelligent and decent enough now to realise that it was wrong. Too many muslims still don't.
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Eh? Like those Christians that killed unborn children at abortion clinics?

'we're' ... interesting lexis again, so it is 'we' and 'them' in your mind?
 
Dicehunter said:
I'm not pointing fingers here but saying 100% of muslims aren't terrorists is like saying 100% of any group is innocent and has no nutjobs.
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Nope, because i didn't say 0% of Muslims are terrorists, merely not 100%, which leaves an infinite number of possible percentages < 100% to choose from.
 
hornetstinger said:
Hitchens made an excellent reply to what you said.

In another words, you think the blame for islamic terrorism is on us, not a violent idealogy that calls for the conquering of non muslims.
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And in the same vein I think we should ban right wing ideologies. It's a violent non inclusive ideology that causes terrorism and murder, with dozens of deaths and multiple incidences over the last few years. All the people to that adhere to it should be included in that blame, just because they follow that ideology.

*Note, this is sarcasm, but it's basically the same logical fallacy being used by several in this thread, except it's a religion, not a political ideology being targeted.
 
Mason- said:
Yeah except the Bible is almost entirely contradictory. You have all of this and then you have Jesus saying love everyone.

The qu'ran is a bit more straight forward.
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Having read the quran with the help of an ex muslim friend of mine it reads more like an instruction manual for war and subjugation.

I hope one day humanity moves passed the lunacy that is ALL religion.
 
From what I'm reading on trucking forums the Truck was from Poland, had a delivery in Berlin this morning which it made but then no contact from the driver, it appears he was the dead passenger and the driver was whoever carried out this act. (That's the gist of the theory's anyway)

Whilst you do get double manned trucks, in my experience it's few and far between, I suspect some poor guy started his shift this week with no idea it would be his last nor end this way, I hope it wasn't this actually and both were terrorists given my professional standpoint.

Regardless, utterly awful, RIP.
 
ultralaser said:
Maybe those who will have lost loved ones will take some solace in the fact that those with no reason to offer a signal of support do so. Maybe it's something that people can do to try and show support for those that have lost someone. Maybe just maybe it might help someone suffering right now. But I'm sure your moaning on an internet forum will achieve much much more.:rolleyes:
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While i understand that, praying doesn't get to the root of the problem, nor prevent it from happening in the future.
 
If anyone wants to know the TRUTH about what is happening in DE with respect to muslims and these aliens all appearing everywhere here I can fill you in on the exact unbiased details

I think however that these "mods" would just prevent my posts appearing as usual.

What Germans say in Public about immigration, is EXACTLY the opposite of what they say in private amongst their friends.

Immigrants are not really welcome here, and when they start moving into an area, the Germans move out faster than Usain Bolt.

In just a few years a nice neighbourhood can turn into a toilet. It is very shocking. These people do not mainly have manners, litter everywhere.

YOu want to know the 100% sign that you are in a muslim/immigrant area? You will see old matresses tossed into the street. No German would ever do this, so if you are looking for a house and you see matress on street anywhere near your place, it has ethnics 100%.

As for this attack, it will not be long before people go crazy and start shooting up mosques or murdering muslims. When this happens it will all kick off , and we will REALLY see the true nature of these invaders.

ISIS were 100% correct, we will see a religious war in Europe very very soon, and all I can say is, Im not on the side of the muslims.

Its a tradegy. None of this needed to happen.
 
Mason- said:
Yeah except the Bible is almost entirely contradictory. You have all of this and then you have Jesus saying love everyone.

The qu'ran is a bit more straight forward.
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Yeh man, the bible is a complicated religion, and Islam is totally not, so simples.
 
Dicehunter said:
I've read the bible and it just like the quran is filled with violence.

The authors of both books had some serious mental health issues.
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Both texts are full of contradictions, confusion, and interpretation.

These are often used to justify behaviour, or falsely influence people.
 
D.P. said:
Can you not read? I never said he, just his point was utterly irrelevant because no every Muslim is a terrorist. Learn to read before replying.
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I can read better than you obviously because your post clearly claimed he thought 100 percent of muslims were terrorists, dont try and backtrack now.
 
Longbow said:
Talked about skewed statistics.

1. They only go up to 2005, there's been a lot of Islamic terrorism since then.

2. They include 'Tree Spiking', bank robbery & arson. Someone pouring petrol on the door of a closed abortion clinic has the same statistical value as 9/11 according to the list. Try looking up the statistics of terrorist events where people are killed.

3. Islamic terrorism is higher when counted with the world statistics, as the muslim population in the USA is only about 1%.
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Here is more recent statistics .
https://thinkprogress.org/less-than...religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6#.mps2qtzdg


Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated[
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neil_g said:
What I'd like is people to stick to facts rather than jumping to conclusion. And to show some respect.

And no I'm not an apologist as some suggest, whoever is responsible for such an act should be strung up. But instantly blaming a group of people based on no facts is irresponsible.
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People are playing the odds, the odds are stacked in their favour.
 
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