Truck crashes into Christmas market in Berlin

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Tummy said:
What reform? There are still terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity?
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If we had a room of 100 people and all committed terrorist attacks in the name of religion, only 1 of those would be a christian, islam needs to be reformed as it's causing problems in every country on earth and people can only take so much of this.

Why bring other religions into this though ? It's the typical bully tactic "Yeah well he did it too".
 
Chojin said:
Where does the population of countries with Sharia Law fit into this? You could say Saudi Arabia and Iran are 'living in peace' - but with a combined population of 100 million people and lovely public executions etc. I don't like your idea of the future.
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Well the image I posted is simply a way of expressing the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. So I would imagine the Wahhabi elements in Saudi Arabia and the Sunny elements in Iran are all represented in the image. As for Sharia Law, most moderate Muslims don't subscribe to it.
 
flame696 said:
I can't understand one thing 9 people have died and the media, forums like this one go crazy. I just read some on this page saying its 9 days before Christmas and 9 people havd died!!

BUT what about all the people that have died in Syria??? Burma???? Palestine??? Anyone going crazy about them?? Oh i know why its because they are muslim right they dont matter??!!!!

450,000 SYRIANS HAVE DIED 50,000 ARE CHILDREN!!!!! and here you people are debating whether muslims are terrorists. You people disgust me!!

50,000 children who didn't do anything to deserve death, imagine if those were your children??!!
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Easy explanation, those stories don't sell papers but putting Muslims are all terrorists etc that sells a lot of papers and gets lots of views for tv channels.

Meh it's a shame that people die because some mentally ill person that uses Islam as a reason for their attacks, have to die through no fault of their own.

RIP:(
 
flame696 said:
I can't understand one thing 9 people have died and the media, forums like this one go crazy. I just read some on this page saying its 9 days before Christmas and 9 people havd died!!

BUT what about all the people that have died in Syria??? Burma???? Palestine??? Anyone going crazy about them?? Oh i know why its because they are muslim right they dont matter??!!!!

450,000 SYRIANS HAVE DIED 50,000 ARE CHILDREN!!!!! and here you people are debating whether muslims are terrorists. You people disgust me!!

50,000 children who didn't do anything to deserve death, imagine if those were your children??!!
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Im pretty sure this is the definition of going full retard.

No matter what goes on in the middle east, it is not western people driving trucks into markets on purpose.

Any killings by the west are accidental.
 
Goes on OCUK - clicks to the last page of this thread.

Oh ffs.

I am becoming more and more certain that some people need to have an enemy.
 
Tummy said:
Eh? No. I am saying that all christians are not blamed for the actions of the few, so why is islam at fault for this?

Terrorists and extremism is the problem.
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It’s not about blaming all Muslims, It’s about being honest about the role Islam plays in inspiring violence. So when you do the “nothing to do with Islam, it's terrorists and extremism ” thing, you’re being knowingly dishonest.
 
uber soldat said:
I already have :rolleyes: go back and actually read the reply.(under the quotation from you.)
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Nope, comprehension failure on your part. Go back and read what I said again, slowly this time.

I refuted what eh said because 100% of Muslims are not terrorists, I never said he claimed that.
 
Skunkworks said:
It’s not about blaming all Muslims, It’s about being honest about the role Islam plays in inspiring violence. So when you do the “nothing to do with Islam, it's terrorists and extremism ” thing, you’re being knowingly dishonest.
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Its Arabs...... its an Arab cultural problem. I don,t see no Indonesian committing terrorist attacks in Europe.
 
awaybreaktoday said:
Its Arabs...... its an Arab cultural problem. I don,t see no Indonesian committing terrorist attacks in Europe.
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For what its worth, I don't blame all Christians for the actions of the terrorist or extremist Christians, even though that is a religion that inspires violence.
 
Skunkworks said:
Strange how you always miss out the scale and frequency when doing your "look everything is equal" act.
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Everything is not equal, but to post comments condemning an entire religion, based on the actions of a few is beyond ridiculous. Pointing out that (as a poster put it) 'we', Christians, are somehow the bastions of good in the world is just as daft, people have committed and continue to commit terrible acts of terrorism under the guise of believing in the bible. Yet that is not a Christian problem.

The common problem is people.
 
Sliver said:
Well the image I posted is simply a way of expressing the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. So I would imagine the Wahhabi elements in Saudi Arabia and the Sunny elements in Iran are all represented in the image. As for Sharia Law, most moderate Muslims don't subscribe to it.
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There have been polls taken in the past on muslim support for Sharia Law in the UK and it's around 40%.

I don't know of any polls that exist that specify 'people who happen to be born muslim'. Those numbers can be fudged in whatever way to suit a given argument.

There isn't really a muslim equivalent of a 'casual Christian' who goes to his mate's son's baptism so he can get drunk all afternoon.

Thinking reform is going to solve things is simply defeatism. Muslims doubling every ten years in the UK... it's never going to happen.
 
Dis86 said:
It's not the actions of a few though...is it?

That's trolled out every time...

The problem being there's an every time. They just can't stop.
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'They' ... c'mon, same race.

It is the actions of a few, how many billion muslims are in the world?
 
Tummy said:
'They' ... c'mon, same race.

It is the actions of a few, how many billion muslims are in the world?
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And how many does it take to provide support for them? Heck, entire nations of them have sheltered terrorists. Libya for example. Pakistan for example. Looks at IS, 10s of thousands of fighters. The support network propping them up must have been huge!
 
Dis86 said:
And how many does it take to provide support for them? Heck, entire nations of them have sheltered terrorists. Libya for example. Pakistan for example. Looks at IS, 10s of thousands of fighters. The support network propping them up must have been huge!
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You mean like support that the 'allies' gave the United States of America, when Bush lead his country in to a War in the name of god? Aiding foreign invasion.


10's of thousands out of over one and a half billion, :o.
 
Dis86 said:
And how many does it take to provide support for them? Heck, entire nations of them have sheltered terrorists. Libya for example. Pakistan for example. Looks at IS, 10s of thousands of fighters. The support network propping them up must have been huge!
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The middle (Saudi Arabia) east is the problem...
 
Tummy said:
You mean like support that the 'allies' gave the United States of America, when Bush lead his country in to a War in the name of god? Aiding foreign invasion.


10's of thousands out of over one and a half billion, :o.
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What have civilians at a Christmas market got to do with that?
 
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